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Same size?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:29 pm
by blgitn
Are the outer front wheel bearing and the camshaft nut the same size?I

R/ Roger.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:30 pm
by Steve Jelf
I thought I knew, but it took awhile to find a camshaft and check. The answer is no. The camshaft nut is loose on a spindle. Of course the two nuts are completely different shapes, too.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:56 am
by Norman Kling
Not only are the nuts a different size, but the nut on the spindle has castles on it for cotter pin and the right nut has an opposite thread.
Norm

Re: Same size?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:37 am
by Mark Gregush
If you are asking what size wrench it takes, I would have to check. I do know the cam gear lock nut would use the same size spark plug wrench as the Model A spark plugs. Also, the cam nut is part of the front seal, the seal rides on it and is also the spacer for the rotor or gear on a distributor setup.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:05 pm
by BE_ZERO_BE
Here is a tool I made from a Model T wheel wrench.
It fits the front bearing and the camshaft nut.

 
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Re: Same size?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:18 pm
by Mark Gregush
Bob I think you may be the only one that read the question correctly. ;) I misread it. Great tool.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:53 am
by Original Smith
Steve Coniff has a Snap On socket for the camshaft nut. I've not seen another.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:32 am
by Steve Jelf
Bob I think you may be the only one that read the question correctly.

If everybody else read it incorrectly, maybe it was unclear. :D


This is what I made for the timing gear nut.
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Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:04 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
BE_ZERO_BE wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:05 pm
Here is a tool I made from a Model T wheel wrench.
It fits the front bearing and the camshaft nut.

 
IMG_1850 (Small).JPG
IMG_1849 (Small).JPG

I believe the other tool shown is a beer bottle wrench, is it not?

Nice job on the cam nut socket!!

Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:44 pm
by BE_ZERO_BE
There is a Snap-On socket on eBay right now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAP-ON-36-F-S ... 4098385276

I have one as well but they are not deep enough to use on the spindle bearing.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:18 pm
by Steve Jelf
...they are not deep enough to use on the spindle bearing.

I think it would be pretty easy to make a socket for that, but #1349 is good enough.

Re: Same size?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:04 pm
by Allan
There is a Z tool for the camshaft nut. I have an early version, T2333. Like the flywheel wrench, it has a real dogleg offset, which causes both tools to crank off the nut well before they are properly tight. This damages the nut and the wrench.
On the camshaft nut I keep the wrench in place by slipping a big washer over the neck on the nut, a tubular sleeve next, and another washer up to which the roller timer nut is wound. This stops the wrench cranking off the cam nut.

Allan from down under.