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Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:48 pm
by lmitch
I'm rebuilding the Hog's Head for a 1925 T. I purchased Brake & Reverse Pedal Supports, Slow Speed Notch, etc... While test fitting today I noticed there is a lot of travel in the brake pedal before engaging the cam. The wear on the pedal cam is excessive. Couldn't find a supplier that carries pedals. After a couple of hours searching these forums, I can't find a solution. Maybe I'm not using the right search phrase. Any suggestions?
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:11 pm
by Henry K. Lee
Mitch,
I ran it to this issue years back on the replacement pieces. Finally had to take some out of other hogsheads etc and piece them together. I have plenty of pedals and cams, but fitting really is the thing to "your" hogshead.
All the Best,
Hank in Tin-A-See
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:28 pm
by Mark Gregush
Remove the shaft build up the cam by welding and file the profile back. If you are going thru all the work I hope you are replacing the shafts anyway.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:41 pm
by Henry K. Lee
Good one Mark, I forgot to mention that!
Hank
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:05 pm
by lmitch
Was hoping to just replace clutch shaft. While disassembling today it was clear the reverse and brake shaft needed replacement. The worn out bands led to over adjustment. The band ears wore on shaft threads. I'm don't believe the brakes were working when it was parked back in the 70's. If they were working, they must have made a racket. Some genius installed the bands with steel rivets and the band material was gone.
Got some good photos today but I'm stupid and cannot figure out how to post. Sized them down to 1meg.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:06 pm
by lmitch
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Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:13 pm
by MichaelPawelek
lmitch wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:05 pm
Was hoping to just replace clutch shaft. While disassembling today it was clear the reverse and brake shaft needed replacement. The worn out bands led to over adjustment. The band ears wore on shaft threads. I'm don't believe the brakes were working when it was parked back in the 70's. If they were working, they must have made a racket. Some genius installed the bands with steel rivets and the band material was gone.
Got some good photos today but I'm stupid and cannot figure out how to post. Sized them down to 1meg.
Many years ago it was reported that some band material sets were being sold with brass “colored” rivets.
Unless one tested them out with a magnet they could easily be installed by mistake. Someone with experience would feel the difference bending the ears out but for someone who had never installed band linings before the switch could easily be missed.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:27 pm
by Scott_Conger
Take a few minutes now and straighten and align the pedals, too. You can work them cold just fine. The reverse pedal especially looks a little wonky unless the photo lies.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:21 am
by lmitch
Scott_conger wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:27 pm
Take a few minutes now and straighten and align the pedals, too. You can work them cold just fine. The reverse pedal especially looks a little wonky unless the photo lies.
You are correct. The reverse and clutch pedal need adjustment.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:35 am
by Steve Jelf
You can weld it up as Mark says, or you may find a better pedal at a swap meet. I paid $5 for one at Bakersfield.
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:59 am
by Norman Kling
I agree with all the above. Also you might find that one or more pedals, usually the brake and low can be bent from pushing hard on them. It is impossible to get the right adjustment without straightening them out and if needed, weld and grind the cam portion of the pedal as Mark says.
Norm
Re: Brake Pedal Problem
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:27 am
by lmitch
Thanks for the input. I will weld it up and tool to fit.