There is a folder in the Gallery section of the forum for HCCT information.
Martynn Vowell has been commissioned to create drawings for the Ford, KRW and Allen HCCT's.
As you know, He does great work.
Here is the link to the gallery.
app.php/gallery/album/205
There is also a second HCCT gallery labeled "MY HCCT".
You can post pictures of your HCCT albeit original, restored or homemade.
Here is the link to that gallery.
app.php/gallery/album/206
Check it out
HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
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HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
Bob,
Fantastic work, as usual. The only thing I saw on the 18z245 was that I think the original handle grips were all a constant diameter as opposed to tapering larger. With the perspective in the drawing, I can't tell for sure, but based on how the main shaft looks and that they are on the same plane in the exploded view, I think the handle grip might be modeled as a taper. The originals look at least similar to a later model T crank handle sleeve/grip. Maybe someone knows if this was a T part or just similar.
Again, this is great info and very much appreciated!
Nik
Fantastic work, as usual. The only thing I saw on the 18z245 was that I think the original handle grips were all a constant diameter as opposed to tapering larger. With the perspective in the drawing, I can't tell for sure, but based on how the main shaft looks and that they are on the same plane in the exploded view, I think the handle grip might be modeled as a taper. The originals look at least similar to a later model T crank handle sleeve/grip. Maybe someone knows if this was a T part or just similar.
Again, this is great info and very much appreciated!
Nik
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
These drawings are based on hundreds and hundreds of photographs of HCCT's.
We discovered a lot of variation within each manufacturer.
We found no original drawings for any HCCT.
No drawings for any Z tool have been discovered in the Ford archives.
These drawings are the best representation of the HCCT models that we were able to determine.
There is no doubt that after more then 100 years, "Correct" has been lost to time.
We discovered a lot of variation within each manufacturer.
We found no original drawings for any HCCT.
No drawings for any Z tool have been discovered in the Ford archives.
These drawings are the best representation of the HCCT models that we were able to determine.
There is no doubt that after more then 100 years, "Correct" has been lost to time.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
No doubt. My comment wasn't intended to cover the other manufacturers (which show many grip styles in photos and literature), but rather was specific to the 18z245. It's also possible that it is indeed modeled as a straight-sided grip and that the perspective is making it look tapered. The information you've gathered is invaluable, and I'm very grateful for it.
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
Very neat and great work!
Thanks Bob and Ron for the basics.
Thanks Bob and Ron for the basics.
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
This is an old post, but I wanted to correct myself for posterity. The Ford HCCT handle is indeed tapered - about 1/8". For those that haven't gone to look at all of these drawings, you should. There is a wealth of information there.
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Re: HCCT Assembly Drawings Available
Absolutely Awesomw!