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Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:38 am
by John Illinois
I am trying to remove the radius rod ball cup on an oil pan. I drilled out the rivets and got it cherry red with a rose bud torch. I could not pull or hammer
it lose. Has anyone done this with a brazed part? Does the old brazing crystalize and become harder to melt?
John
Re: Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Miss a rivet maybe?
Re: Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:58 pm
by Allan
The problem is likely not enough heat over a wide enough area. If the rivets are gone, suspend the pan so the mounting can fall off, and heat, heat, heat. Your rosebud may well not have a wide enough play for the job. Replacing the part will pose the same problem. Brazing around the perimeter and around the rivets may be the best you can do.
I have tried to remove a pan ear and had the same problem.
Allan from down under.
Re: Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:51 am
by John Illinois
Thanks Allan. I think not enough heat is the problem. I now have a NOS socket and there is a strip of steel down the center and it is surrounded by hollow spaces and covered by the socket in the middle. Not much heat transfer. I plan on cutting and grinding much of this away and try it again. It seems to me Ford may have brazed the pan in an oven.
I will get the new one on somehow if I succeed.
John
Re: Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:15 am
by DanTreace
John
This is how Ford did the pan brazing in 1915, of course the process must have changed over the years for higher production rates

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Re: Remove brazed on parts
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:08 pm
by Joe Bell
I had better luck heating from the inside, metal is thinner.