Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

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Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by SurveyKing » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:24 pm

Would someone post the correct size and type of bolts and nuts needed to fasten the cowl to the body and to the firewall please. My car had a mismatched variety when disassembled. There are four places to fasten to the firewall and two or more to the body I think, please correct me if I am wrong, Thank You
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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by SurveyKing » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:52 am

If anyone has original photos that shows the bolts fastening the cowl to the firewall, please post. Thanks

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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:23 pm

I believe these are untouched since the factory.
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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by SurveyKing » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:36 pm

Thanks for posting Rich. Are the two upper fasteners Carriage bolts? What is the wrench size for the two upper hex nuts?

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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:36 pm

Yes, the upper are carriage bolts too. I couldn't measure the heads but they are not the extra small ones like on fenders or coil boxes. The nuts are slightly bigger than 1/2 with the rust on them. Getting a standard 1/2 open end wrench would be tight. The bolts are 5/16". This is a '24 Tudor but the bolts would be the same.
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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by Original Smith » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:03 pm

Don't forget the piece of felt that goes between the firewall and cowl. Yours takes five split rivets, which are the same ones used for the cowl lacing.


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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by SurveyKing » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:07 pm

Thanks Original, I will use your design rivets for that as well!


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Re: Correct 1924 Cowl Fasteners

Post by SurveyKing » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:42 pm

Rich
I would guess the two outer carriage bolts would be 1 1/2 or 2 inches long to get through the pillar where the center two are maybe 3/4 inch long or so.

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