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Ford Battery

Post by Dennis_Brown » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:21 pm

I see things posted for Battery Boxes but when did Ford build a 6 volt battery? At this time I cannot post a picture of the battery case I have but it is divided into 3 compartments for where the cores went. I imagine it is Bakelite. The top is not there but it has Ford in big letters on the side. It is possible it was made in the 30's or 40's. I have had it for 30 years and do not know what I will do with it, my wife would not appreciate it sitting on a table with flowers in it. Strange how they do not think much of these wonderful items.


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by jiminbartow » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:33 pm

First (Exide) battery in a 1919 Ford Service Bulletin
Second (Ford Script) battery in a 1921 Ford Service Bulletin.

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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Kerry » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:41 pm

My scanner has died so can't post what is in parts book, the Ford battery was available from a complete battery to some 20 parts, plates, caps, lead posts, rubber etc, so you could rebuild/ repair the battery.


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Allan » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:31 am

I have a Ford Battery Manual. It is the same size and question and answer format as the Ford manual which came with the cars. Unfortunately, unlike the car manuals, it is not dated.
It must be early, as it shows the wooden battery case, the cells, the connecting components, and gives a comprehensive guide to diagnoses and repairs.
These even cover repairs to each individual plate in each cell.
There is no mention of the tin box into which the battery is placed when fitted to the car.

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Re: Ford Battery

Post by jiminbartow » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:01 am

Allan, the September, 1921 Ford Service Bulletin I posted refers to the Ford Script Battery as “the new Ford battery”, so, I assume, from this, that the Ford Script battery with the three separated cell boxes in the Ford script battery box, was introduced in 1921 and sold by Ford dealers and Ford parts suppliers for $25.00. That as a lot of money. $1.00 in 1921 would be equivalent to $14.61 in 2021 dollars, making the cost of a $25.00 battery in 1921, equivalent to $365.34 in 2021. Jim Patrick

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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Kerry » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:30 am

Jim. I found that price as well in a Sept1921 parts book, I do question that on being correct because other parts books later say $10.00 for a new Ford battery.


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by jiminbartow » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:42 am

Kerry. With Ford’s reputation for keeping prices as low as possible for the common man, $10.00 sounds more realistic, but being as the new battery cost was listed as $25.00 in an official Ford Service Bulletin that was the official method of communication between Ford and the dealers, I have to assume that the price in 1921 was $25.00. However, the possiblilty exists that the price was eventually lowered to $10.00 as more efficient methods of manufacturing the batteries came into being as well as complaints that $25.00 was just too much for the new battery, because nobody could afford them at that price :) Jim Patrick


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Kerry » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:21 am

Agreed Jim, seems that Ford was playing funny buggers with batteries, no mention of a battery in pre Sept 21 parts books although all electricals are listed, maybe like the spare wheel, you get a rim but the tire cost you extra :D


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Original Smith » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:40 am

I have three NOS battery cases. One wood, and two hard rubber. They make is easy for me to test a repro battery box. I bought one once, and it would fit. So, I had to have them made myself. Do you wonder why I dislike reproductions?


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by RustyRim » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:46 am

A empty battery case that is in good condition is worth several hundred dollars to some people.
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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:04 am

Look at the non Ford supply catalogs like Western Auto or even Sears, tires and batteries were not cheap items until synthetic compounds came on the market. Rubber was not cheap and there was only so much of it.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:24 am

Here are the Service Bulletin pages converted from PDF's.


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by DanTreace » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:57 am

The later all rubber case Ford battery came out in 1924, and there is a 1927 Service Bulletin on care and feeding. The wood box battery was earlier.

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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Original Smith » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:48 pm

I'm using one of my repro battery box bottoms, that an original will fit into. Because the lids use the battery for support, I had to fabricate two special brackets to take the place of the Ford battery handles. They work great with a modern 6 volt battery. In my post above I mentioned an original battery would fit in a repro. They will not! Sorry for the error. I should learn to proof read. I also had to use two pieces of 1/4" plywood to keep the battery from moving around inside the box.


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Re: Ford Battery

Post by Allan » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:24 pm

I have posted this before, but it may help others. I used a modern battery in a tin box made as per the originals. The battery was fitted in the box, [with a loop of plastic packing strap left in place for lifting it out] and I cut two wood spacer blocks to sit on the top edge. The battery box lid sits on the blocks. When the hold down clamps are fitted they load the lid, the lid loads the blocks and the blocks load the battery. The nett effect is there is no need for a spacer under the battery, no packing needed on the sides and the battery is held down as it is in modern cars.
Any battery that will go into the tin box can be used.

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