My 1927 Model Coupe
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My 1927 Model Coupe
I am going share photos. I will start by showing the T in 1959 in North Dakota. It is a photo of my parents with the car at the time of the 75th anniversary of my home town, Forman. I purchased it from a farmer in 1954. I didn't do very much work on it at that time. I did have it repainted.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
Wow! What a great car to work on. That's going to be a nice ride!
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
Got it off!! Now the work begins. We will need help from the MTFCA.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
What a great project Bruce. Looks like you have good help to boot. Should be fun and keep the photos coming. I love to watch a project and follow along and I know others do also.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
An interesting fact: The two right tires and the back left rear tire have never went flat in the 61 years since it was last run. The front left tire would go "completely" flat, and I would air it up each time the car was moved to different storage locations over the years. It would hold air for several months and then go flat again. You would think the tube would not have withstood going thru all of that!
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I think the yellow trim was cute back in the day, at least you could see the peddles at night! Looks like a good crew helping and learning maybe some day they will be the care taker of one?
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
You are VERY fortunate!
What a beautiful original car to restore!
And it looks like it is in absolutely pristine condition!
I cannot believe how nice the radiator looks! If that is the original, I am stunned! That is the nicest looking radiator I have ever seen on an original car!
Same with your engine! It looks more like it is 5 years old, than 90 years old!
What a beautiful original car to restore!
And it looks like it is in absolutely pristine condition!
I cannot believe how nice the radiator looks! If that is the original, I am stunned! That is the nicest looking radiator I have ever seen on an original car!
Same with your engine! It looks more like it is 5 years old, than 90 years old!
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
You are VERY fortunate!
What a beautiful original car to restore!
And it looks like it is in absolutely pristine condition!
I cannot believe how nice the radiator looks! If that is the original, I am stunned! That is the nicest looking radiator I have ever seen on an original car!
Same with your engine! It looks more like it is 5 years old, than 90 years old!
What a beautiful original car to restore!
And it looks like it is in absolutely pristine condition!
I cannot believe how nice the radiator looks! If that is the original, I am stunned! That is the nicest looking radiator I have ever seen on an original car!
Same with your engine! It looks more like it is 5 years old, than 90 years old!
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
I would appreciate comments about how to remove paint from the inside and outside of the coupe and preparing it for painting.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
The paint, though oxidized and covered by a layer of dust and grime still looks good to me. Wash it good then try compounding with Meguiars Ultimate Compound (not the polish) until attaining a mirror-like shine then wax with Meguiars paste wax. You may find you don’t need to re-paint, unless you are tired of the color and want to change it. If the body is solid and there is no need for body work and you do decide you want to paint it, there is no need to strip down to bare metal. You can wet sand the body with 400 grit then 600 grit wet sanding paper and apply a new coat of paint over the old paint. Jim Patrick
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I like Jim's comments about possibly painting over the existing paint. The paint seems to be in good shape. I don't remember what we did when we had it painted in 1954. I believe it was a lacquer paint. I would appreciate more comments about about this issue.
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Be sure of the type of paint (enamel or lacquer) you have on your car and what you are intending to paint over. You can paint enamel over enamel but when wet sanding, if you sand into another coat, you can see a border between the two coats. You can paint enamel over lacquer, but you cannot paint lacquer over enamel. When painting enamel over lacquer, there will be a distinct difference between the lacquer and enamel. If you wet sand the enamel too deep into the lacquer you will be able to see where the enamel ends and the lacquer begins and the only remedy will be to repaint another coat of enamel. It is better to paint lacquer over lacquer, but it is best if the color is the same. Lacquer softens the underlying lacquer and thus, blends in with old lacquer coating and if you wet sand, there is no difference in the overlying coat and underlying coat, unless the colors are different, then you cannot see the border between coats but you will see the color change. To prevent sanding through, it is a good idea to paint at least three coats to allow for wet sanding and compounding. Multiple coats of lacquer, unlike enamel, blend in together with the prior coats, so you can sand into the preceding coat without leaving a border. Lacquer is a much hotter paint and will react with the enamel, softening it and causing it to wrinkle and lift off the surface. If that happens you will have to strip down to the bare metal and possibly re-do any bodywork that was done years ago that you are blissfully unaware of, at present.
Since it dries rapidly, using a catalyst, from the inside out, 2 part epoxy paint can be painted over enamel or lacquer.
As a precaution, when painting over any type of existing paint, if you are unsure of whether they are compatible or not, paint a coat of red oxide primer then paint the finish coat over that after wet sanding the primer to smooth the surface and remove any rough overspray, in preparation for the finish coat. Use only lacquer thinner to thin lacquer for spraying and use only mineral spirits for thinning enamel. Epoxy can be thinned with MEK or Xylene, or whatever the instructions on the can say. Clean up with lacquer thinner. Mineral spirits does not clean the equipment as good as lacquer thinner. Jim Patrick
Since it dries rapidly, using a catalyst, from the inside out, 2 part epoxy paint can be painted over enamel or lacquer.
As a precaution, when painting over any type of existing paint, if you are unsure of whether they are compatible or not, paint a coat of red oxide primer then paint the finish coat over that after wet sanding the primer to smooth the surface and remove any rough overspray, in preparation for the finish coat. Use only lacquer thinner to thin lacquer for spraying and use only mineral spirits for thinning enamel. Epoxy can be thinned with MEK or Xylene, or whatever the instructions on the can say. Clean up with lacquer thinner. Mineral spirits does not clean the equipment as good as lacquer thinner. Jim Patrick
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
Nobody has mentioned it yet but the body of 1927 coupe from the factory was painted “Channel Green” with black running boards, fenders and radiator apron Since cars with the original paint have dulled, oxidized and darkened with age and there were never any color photos taken of a new factory fresh 1927 T Coupe, nobody is really sure of the actual color, but black and white pictures show a high gloss finish. I found a photo of what your T probably looked like as it left the factory in 1927, only it would not have had running board step plates and the pinstriping would have continued across the front column, then down the column and at the bottom of the column to the rear. The upholstery would have been grey cloth with thin green stripes. Jim Patrick
I prefer the darker, richer green color in the third coupe photo. Of course the red spokes and white walls would not have been been endorsed by Henry. The last photo shows a 1927 Tudor, which was also painted Channel Green at the factory. I think the wire spokes would have been originally painted black, but I think the light yellow wire spokes complements the green very nicely.
I prefer the darker, richer green color in the third coupe photo. Of course the red spokes and white walls would not have been been endorsed by Henry. The last photo shows a 1927 Tudor, which was also painted Channel Green at the factory. I think the wire spokes would have been originally painted black, but I think the light yellow wire spokes complements the green very nicely.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
Got the the engine back from the rebuilder yesterday. Used Fastenal for shipping. It was $155 to ship to Ohio and $155 to get back Ames, Iowa. I thought that was very reasonable.
Several photos attached. One with the grandson at the Fastenal store.
Several photos attached. One with the grandson at the Fastenal store.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
These photos were shown on another post with information. I will attach some here to continue to show progress with the restoration.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
Six guys moving the coupe back into the garage after blast cleaning on 12-1-21. It was a beautiful day, in the 60s!
Used three 2x4s eight feet long.
Used three 2x4s eight feet long.
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
You will probably want to change the needle on the NH carb to the 26/27 type. Do you have the linkage for going over the top or a hole in the block and new arm for the throttle rod? http://www.modeltford.com/item/6213B.aspx
1926 Tudor
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Re: My 1927 Model Coupe
John, Yes, I will change the needle, and there is a hole in the block and valve cover as shown in the photo. There already was a hole in the block, and the rebuilder put one in the valve cover.