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***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:07 pm
by VowellArt
I'm pretty sure this is correct, but I thought I'd run past you guys just to make sure. ;)

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Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:58 pm
by John kuehn
Not that it’s makes a lot of difference but I think Ford added a small raised ridge just under the front of the transmission cover opening. You can’t see it from the outside but only from underneath. It was supposed to help the oil go over the drums a little better. Seems like there were a few other changes here and there but hardly noticeable. Read it somewhere years ago in a history of Fords transmission covers for the Model T.
Only a real perfectionist would want to get the right cover in that era your showing. And by the way your rendition looks great as all of your drawings do! I’m sure there are more knowledgeable folks on the forum would know for sure when the ridge appeared and what year.

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:08 pm
by Allan
Martynn, I don't know about USA production, but on these later covers the clutch fork shaft was a one piece forging, Rather than having the cross piece riveted on.
Allan from down under.

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:24 pm
by DanTreace
View of later clutch release
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Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:30 pm
by DanTreace
John

Yes a little 'flipper'' in the casting was added in 1924, but really isn't needed to be drawn in this sketch.



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Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:30 pm
by John kuehn
Thanks Dan for the update when the ridge was added and no it isn’t needed in the sketch.
It’s a little add on that Ford added that maybe didn’t really work or not much after all. I have a 24 Coupe and I really can’t remember if it had the ridge but maybe I could reach under the opening and see if I could feel it. Don’t really feel like removing the cover to check it. :D

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 am
by VowellArt
Allan I thought something was off, but couldn't see it...it's like that sometimes, I don't see the obvious because I've been looking at it for so long...which is why I post things here, so you guys can correct my oversights.

John, I know about that little vane, the engine in my 22 is a 24 and it has that little vane just under the top of the inspection door opening. But since it is on the under surface on the downward slope of the opening, you'd never see it unless I broke a section out to show it. But I'm just not sure it is really necessary.

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Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:54 am
by Original Smith
A little research is needed before posting these illustrations! The 1924 hogsheads are indeed different!

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:18 am
by VowellArt
Well Larry, that's why I'm here. I know what a 24 looks like, but the rest of them, not so much. I'm depending upon the folks here to steer me straight as to what the differences are, because I don't know. And everything I get off the internet usually only shows the top side (none too clearly), if and when I can find one shown. The 14's I've got the drawings for, but everything else....I'm sort of out to sea on. What differences do you know about these hogsheads? I'd really like to know and of course I'd incorporate them into the drawings. :)