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Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:22 pm
by Steve Jelf
I was in the barn this afternoon looking through stuff to take to Chickasha, and found these. I know there are sturdier ones, but these are better than nothing.

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No, I'm not selling them. I intend to use them.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:21 pm
by RajoRacer
Those appear to be originals, Steve - all 4 dip pans should use/have them. I have several extra sets.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:11 am
by Mark Gregush
Does not hurt to put them on 3 dip pans too!

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:23 am
by Kerry
Don't know if just a Canadian thing but the only ones I've come across are spot welded to the pan.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:56 am
by MWalker
Those won't fit with an early (crocodile-nose) pan. So if you want to use some, you'll need to get the repops and grind a little off the width of them.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:22 am
by Steve Jelf
Those won't fit with an early (crocodile-nose) pan.

I have some others that will fit the 1915. These will go on the 1923.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:48 am
by Original Smith
I have them on all my cars. Early and late. To fit the early pans, I just file the holes, and the edges to fit the early pans.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:01 pm
by George House
I’ve used originals on my ‘14. Just had to abide by my restoration motto: Grind em to shape. File em to fit. And paint em to match...

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:21 am
by It's Bill
Newbie question: what is the advantage of using these reinforcements? Bill

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:01 am
by Steve Jelf
...what is the advantage of using these reinforcements?

They stiffen the engine/hogshead "joint" on the pan to resist bending it at that point. The 26-27 cars have the hogshead bolted to the block for the same reason.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:28 am
by George House
Basically its to preclude a broken crankshaft. Does so by ‘resist Bending’ of the block and tranny cover as Steve stated..

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:50 pm
by RajoRacer
I believe the original purpose for theses was when Ford came out with the 4 dip pan which decreased a considerable amount of metal & strength from the radius rod socket area.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:33 pm
by Original Smith
Early pans tend to crack in that area.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:43 pm
by Joe Bell
Kerry, they are spot welded on all Canadian pans along with the horse shoes inside the pan.

Re: Didn't know I had 'em.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:19 pm
by Kerry
Joe, I'd have to say I've never come across the horse shoes being spot welded.