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Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by SurveyKing » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:20 pm

I need help in clarifying the mounting of the cowl to the sides of the body on my 1924 Touring Car. Attached are photos of the Driver side and Passenger side cowl mounting holes. They are above where the two Stanchion Bolts go and coincide with a projection protruding from the sides of the body. My question is what size screws or bolts are used here, is it the two screws with the oblong nuts as shown in photo 3? or did Henry use something smaller?
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by SurveyKing » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:22 pm

Sorry one of the photos is driver side


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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by SurveyKing » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:21 pm

Still looking for help on mounting the cowl to the sides of the body on a 1924 Touring, thank you for taking the time.

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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:54 am

Your pictures don't make sense.

Here's how the stanchions are mounted. The bottom two carriage bolts go through the wooden infrastructure and the flat head screw goes into the instrument panel with the large bolt behind it through the TOP hole.

The cowl is actually attached to a metal bracket via a rivet, and the bracket is screwed into the wood infrastructure.
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:03 pm

Go down to Dan's post Friday Jan 29th viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16951
I knew I saw the info someplace. I looked at my March 1925, but it did not use the parts you are asking about.
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by SurveyKing » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:10 pm

Will, is that a pic of a 1924? The bracket on mine is fastened to the side of the body not the wood frame, if I am not mistaken, it is integral with the side body metal. I am thinking that the hole above the Stanchion bolt holes is to accommodate a bolt going through that bracket as it lines up perfectly with the hole in the bracket. Perhaps they were riveted at some point later on, but if they were riveted, how would you paint the underside of the side of the body which is overlapped by the cowl?

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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:43 pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19073&p=146199#p146199
The over lap like some other areas on the T body were never painted.
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Original Smith » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:28 am

The pictures posted above with the oval slotted screws are correct. Please look at the link above that I posted several months ago on the same subject.

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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:42 am

The body on my car is a 24. The running gear is a 25, and as such the car is titled as a 25
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:45 am

SurveyKing wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:10 pm
Will, is that a pic of a 1924? The bracket on mine is fastened to the side of the body not the wood frame, if I am not mistaken, it is integral with the side body metal. I am thinking that the hole above the Stanchion bolt holes is to accommodate a bolt going through that bracket as it lines up perfectly with the hole in the bracket. Perhaps they were riveted at some point later on, but if they were riveted, how would you paint the underside of the side of the body which is overlapped by the cowl?
The cowl is riveted to the bracket that screws to the wood. I cannot tear it apart to show you, just take my word for it.
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Re: Cowl Mounting - Need Help

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:52 am

Looking at this photograph, you can see how the bracket on a 24 body is attached to the wood. At the point where the instrument panel and cowl and bracket meet, is where the rivet is located.
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