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Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Hardie » Fri May 14, 2021 7:16 am

Greetings from Canada. Wishing everyone good health and safety in these interesting times as our early "T's" are make their way through their second world-wide pandemic.

I am working on my '15 runabout (COVID 19 project) and am looking for drawings or a schematic of the firewall to assist in general fitment, the right location for placement of all the various holes and since I have installed a starter on my '15 engine the right shape and size of the modification to the bottom opening for clearance. Trying to avoid trial and error !!
Any assistance ----------- GREATLY appreciated.

Keep 'em rolling Mac


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Erik Johnson » Fri May 14, 2021 9:29 am

The Benson Ford Research Center at the Henry Ford museum in Dearborn has factory firewall drawings. You'd have to talk to someone who is familiar with the procedure for procurement in order to obtain the appropriate drawing for your car.

Note that the firewalls from the vendors are generic. For his 1917 touring, my father had to make a number of corrections using the factory drawing and an original firewalls as a reference. See my second post in this thread:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 1294979916


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by John kuehn » Fri May 14, 2021 9:32 am

Check out cimorellis.com Model T Ford digital library.
There is a section for wood body plans plans for Model T Ford. There is a firewall drawing along with plans for different parts of T bodies. It not totally complete but it is some good information for those who need it.
Lang’s also sells wood firewalls for T’s that had them. They are pretty well made. You probably already know this.
Good luck with your project.


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Erik Johnson » Fri May 14, 2021 10:26 am

Lang's and the other vendors do sell wooden firewalls but they are not correct as I posted above. They work, but they are not correct.


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Hardie » Fri May 14, 2021 11:27 am

Thanks guys for the information. The beat goes on.

May there always be a rattle in your crankcase,

Mac


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by NealW » Fri May 14, 2021 12:55 pm

Erik Johnson wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:26 am
Lang's and the other vendors do sell wooden firewalls but they are not correct as I posted above. They work, but they are not correct.
I got a 15 firewall from Snyders in early 2019 when I was restoring our 15 runabout. I was very happy with the quality and fit. I did have to sand a slight taper on the edge to fit more easily into the cowl piece, but that wasn't a big deal.
firewall.JPG


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by John kuehn » Fri May 14, 2021 4:31 pm

The one I bought for my 1919 Roadster years ago worked fine for me. Seems like I redrilled a hole for some reason but I didn’t lose sleep over it.
The original wood firewall was long gone and I was happy with the one I bought.


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Michael Peternell » Fri May 14, 2021 9:54 pm

Hardie wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 7:16 am
Greetings from Canada. Wishing everyone good health and safety in these interesting times as our early "T's" are make their way through their second world-wide pandemic.

I am working on my '15 runabout (COVID 19 project) and am looking for drawings or a schematic of the firewall to assist in general fitment, the right location for placement of all the various holes and since I have installed a starter on my '15 engine the right shape and size of the modification to the bottom opening for clearance. Trying to avoid trial and error !!
Any assistance ----------- GREATLY appreciated.

Keep 'em rolling Mac
I don't believe you need to modify the firewall for a starter. I put a starter engine in my `15 T. Original firewall. Didn't need to modify anything. Engine also had `26/`27 pedals. It fits! I would have never thought so either!


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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by Hardie » Sat May 15, 2021 7:08 pm

Thanks for all the information.

It is indeed a privilege to belong to this Model T fraternity! The "forum" always works !!

It appears I'm now off to the races and am generally sure I won't be sacrificing a perfectly good piece of 3/4 inch birch plywood. Mac

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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by CudaMan » Sat May 15, 2021 8:44 pm

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Re: Firewall drawings/ schematic 1915

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat May 15, 2021 10:26 pm

I found this link viewtopic.php?t=14780
Piewagon First Name: John Last Name: Regan Location: St. Charles, IL
Re: 1915 Firewall Post by Piewagon » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:55 pm
I have all of the drawings and tooling to make a 1915 dash. I even had a custom router bit made to put the correct edge on the outer perimeter of the dash but my bigger problem is that I really don't want to ship them since I have had terrible "luck" getting UPS or FEDEX to haul it from St. Charles, IL to various places far away (like California). They arrive broken and even though I insured it UPS won't pay off on the claim. They think it is a reproduction item that I am trying to sell as authentic and rip them off. My answer to them is just don't break it and you get to keep 100% of the insurance premium. They have no conditions that they talk about before you ship it but after shipping and insuring it and then having it fall off one of their conveyors and get whacked on a corner and broken.....well then it becomes a case of attempted fraud on my part or so they imply. I have delivered dashes to Hershey myself and brought them to Chicasha. If anybody out there can help by playing mule I am going to the winter tour in Florida and could hand a finished dash to someone there if the rest of the trip can be made in a reasonable time frame which is unknown to me at this time Anybody from California going to Florida Winter tour? Anybody traveling through Northern IL on their way West? I know that a lot of us are not getting out and about these days.
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