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Took this snap shot off a framed city scape, West Milton, Ohio, center door with cowl lamps.

That's a hell of a hole in the radiator.

Dan,

Thanks for posting.
Zooming in confirms that the Centerdoor also has the wishbone above the axle which is characteristic of the cars manufacture before Apr 14, 1919 ref: https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc19.htm shown below:

APR 14, 1919 Acc. 235, Box 39, #385, Ford Archives

"From this date two distinct designs of front radius rods, together with front spring perches, right and left, one on the Model T and the other on Model TT.
"The Model TT design will be assembled beneath the axle, instead of above the axle through the spring perch as heretofore.
"Although it would be possible to use the Model T design on the Model TT, we request this be resorted to only in case of a shortage serious enough to threaten loss of production."

Note Bruce commented that the closed cars starting in Jan 1919 came with a starter/generator ref: https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1919.htm "MAJOR MODEL YEAR FEATURES: Note: Starter was an option on the open cars at $75. (Weight 95 lbs.) Demountable rims were an additional $25. (Weight 55 lbs.) The “1919” model year began in January 1919 with the introduction of the electrical equipment as standard in the closed cars."

That is supported by: https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc18.htm which states:

DEC 21, 1918 Acc. 78, Ford Archives
Announcement of starters for closed cars on or about January 15, 1919, at $75.

And since Ford discontinued the side lights on the starter equipped cars -- that would make it a 1917-1918 Centerdoor (assuming side lights were not added and that the front axle was not replaced with an earlier spring perches below the axle.) Black radiator introduced 1917 model year and cowl lights removed on closed cars starting in Jan 1919.

Note that T also appears to have an accessory front spring set very similar to the Defender Shock absorbers.
It also appears to have a KW or other accessory shock on the passenger side?

Again thanks for posting.

Respectfully submitted,

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Reason for side the lamps: it's a 1917 or 1918 sedan.

It has a 1919 Ohio license plate.