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Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:16 pm
by Mopar_man
Well it always seem like when I tighten a castle nut the hole in the bolt never lines up so I have to back the nut off a bit to get the cotter-pin in. Now I know that the pin would have to fall out for the nut to come loose but I still feel like it's not tight enough. Am I being over cautious?

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:31 pm
by Mark Gregush
Never back a nut off. If too far from hole, try a different one or file a small amount off the back side.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 7:37 am
by Mopar_man
Well that's a good idea. :D

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:25 am
by R.V.Anderson
Yup. What Mark said. In addition, if the bolt hole is above, or almost above, the castellation in the nut, put a thin washer underneath. Finally, use as large a diameter cotter pin as you can get to go in. Nearly all holes/nuts listed to take 3/32" pins will quite easily take 7/64". You want the pin to be tight in the hole.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:58 am
by Les Schubert
Which is why I use a torque wrench and Loktite and forget the cotter pin everywhere except the axle.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 10:18 am
by John Codman
IMHO if the manufacturer felt that a nut needs a cotter pin (more expensive then a plain nut) then it needs the cotter pin.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 1:35 pm
by varmint
Try a different nut until you find one that lines up right. They can be swapped around and when you get to the last nut in the pile, you can shave off a thousandth on the underside of the nut (rub it on the concrete floor) and try again.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 2:53 pm
by Hudson29
Mark Gregush wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 11:31 pm
Never back a nut off. If too far from hole, try a different one or file a small amount off the back side.
I just backed an axle nut off to get the split pin to line up. It made me somewhat nervous but I had already stood on a two foot breaker bar and didn't want to go any further. Now I'll redo it after a rub on a file.

Paul

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:55 pm
by George Mills
The difference between castle turrents is only like 6 thou on bolt on 1/4-28 to like maybe 10-11 thou on the 7/16 or 1/2.

Tight and then a cinch to line up, you then over-pull on the wrench you just established a new seat path. Nut off and file is the only real way to do it right at that point. IMHO.

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:59 pm
by kmatt2
A old time T service bulletin trick is to take a file or hacksaw and mark a line in the top of the bolt aligned with the split pin hole. That way you can tell if you can align the castle with the hole or if you will have to remove a little of the back side of the nut in order to get proper tightness, ( torque ).

Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 9:06 pm
by Mopar_man
Well that worked. I never thought of filing the back side of the nut. It took a few tries but it lined up the hole.
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