Outside Oil Line Experience
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Outside Oil Line Experience
Anybody have experience good or bad with this outside oil line kit?
1917 Touring
1946 Aeronca Champ
1952 Willys M38a1 Jeep (sold 2023)
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1946 Aeronca Champ
1952 Willys M38a1 Jeep (sold 2023)
1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I've installed this outside oil line on both our T's. It took more than the "10 minutes" or whatever the instructions said that it takes to install, but pretty straight forward installation. It is cheap insurance in my opinion.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I installed one in my Speedster. Car does not have a mag ring so there was no place for the brass rod to sit on. Eventually the assembly worked itself loose and dropped into the engine. Made a hell of a racket and I spread oil all over the road. Luckily the pieces all worked themselves to the bottom of the pan and did not damage the engine as far as I know. I was able to remove all the pieces thru the oil drain. If you do not have a magneto make sure you get the piece made for cars without a magneto. There are two versions of this kit.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
Tim I just got that same kit last week and plan on installing it this week end. Will post some pictures when done.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
Tim and Others,
Been installing them on T's for over 25 years, they are worth the reassurance.
Hank
Been installing them on T's for over 25 years, they are worth the reassurance.
Hank
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
Has anyone ever run their engines without the line hooked up at the bottom to actually see the rate of flow? I remember reading that the post connection was not as efficient as a scoop device inside the hoggshead?
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I have it on my three cars and installed it in 10+ cars without any problems.
Disconnected in the front, it take some time to the oil comming to the front when engine and oil are cold. After 5 minuts running it empty very fast your oilpan.
Andre
Belgium
Disconnected in the front, it take some time to the oil comming to the front when engine and oil are cold. After 5 minuts running it empty very fast your oilpan.
Andre
Belgium
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
Overall, anything is better than nothing.
But the larger external oil line is of course by far the better. Trouble is, now you have to perform "surgery" on your
hogshead, and most people don't want to do that, especially with the head still on the trans. If your engine is out for
rebuilding, that's the time to do it. I am lucky to have two large lines, and one small one between my 3 Ts.
But the larger external oil line is of course by far the better. Trouble is, now you have to perform "surgery" on your
hogshead, and most people don't want to do that, especially with the head still on the trans. If your engine is out for
rebuilding, that's the time to do it. I am lucky to have two large lines, and one small one between my 3 Ts.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
Well, sheesh, I only wanted the word "anything" in italics!! Sorry!
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I agree with all of the above. I also use the internal accessory inside lines. Similar to Lang's 3081ACC & ACCP. Easy to install. The metal tabs along the lines fit under the "horse shoe" plates in the pan rail.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
The kit I bought had lock washers to use with the screws that came with the kit. The oil line kit is an added way to get more oil to the front main is a plus to use. I have them on my T’s with no issues.
They move more oil than you would think when the engine gets to running temperature.
They move more oil than you would think when the engine gets to running temperature.
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I have them on all my T's and from one experience, I will tell you that it supplies enough oil to keep the engine running without a problem for 10 years without a funnel on the inside oil line! The first time I ran the car after rebuilding the engine, I drove about a mile and the magneto quit working. I ran on battery for 10 years. After 10 years I was restoring another T and rewound 3 magneto coils. I decided to put one on this car and pulled the engine. I found the funnel laying in the bottom of the crankcase and the magneto ring was cut. So I am sure the funnel came off when the magneto quit working 10 years before. The engine had gone many miles and up some steep hills too.
So I agree that outside oiler is a good idea.
Norm
So I agree that outside oiler is a good idea.
Norm
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Re: Outside Oil Line Experience
I run outside oil lines religiously. Usualy one Mag. post and one hogs head plus the large funnel inside. I no longer use the copper line, I use steel line.
The copper gets brittle at the compression ferral and vibration can fracture the line. If there is any question about how much oil the line flows when the engine is hot the answer would be all of it in short order. I know I'm not the first to have this happen because I was worned that would happen about a year before it did. I know everyone runs copper I'm just saying check it regularly. I was fortunate to catch it before the engine was damaged beyond repair. For test purposes I have run a nylon reinforced clear plastic line on the oiler. cold at an idle is dissapointing as very little oil flows but at opperating Temp. at 1,000 RPM its pretty impressive how much oil flows through the line. Makes me wonder how much actualy is flowing in the inside tube when the engine is cold?
Craig.
The copper gets brittle at the compression ferral and vibration can fracture the line. If there is any question about how much oil the line flows when the engine is hot the answer would be all of it in short order. I know I'm not the first to have this happen because I was worned that would happen about a year before it did. I know everyone runs copper I'm just saying check it regularly. I was fortunate to catch it before the engine was damaged beyond repair. For test purposes I have run a nylon reinforced clear plastic line on the oiler. cold at an idle is dissapointing as very little oil flows but at opperating Temp. at 1,000 RPM its pretty impressive how much oil flows through the line. Makes me wonder how much actualy is flowing in the inside tube when the engine is cold?
Craig.