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Can't find the info anywhere, should there be metal covers over the sills on my touring car? (used to be a cast iron end cap muffler now new tin)
Is trim available for under rear doors on sides ?

Yes there should be. What year car? I have an original set. Need to be blasted and tweaked a little, but they are serviceable.

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:08 pm

Yes there should be. What year car? I have an original set. Need to be blasted and tweaked a little, but they are serviceable.

I should have noted the year, body is a 23.
The only reference I could find for covers are for a 25 touring, nothing before that.

They are called sill plates and they are the same from 1917 to 1925

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:50 pm

They are called sill plates and they are the same from 1917 to 1925

https://modeltfordfix.com/the-1915-model-t-ford-part-3/

Covers for the large 2 x 4 looking part in the pictures ? Do you have a picture of cover ? In the article (link above) body sill reference with picture of coconut mat .

Here they are. They are originals. Need some work but can be made usable.

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:05 am

Here they are. They are originals. Need some work but can be made usable.

O.K. , now if you are willing to sell them what is the price tag ?

I suggest studying the matter further.

My dad's 1917 touring doesn't have sheet metal over the sills. He bought the car in original, unrestored condition from the original owner in 1949.

Here's a photo I took a few years ago when he was replacing the leatherette interior door panels (note the original factory paint/drips on the inside of the door).

The original poster’s car is a 23 so they definitely had them.

I’m thinking the low cowl touring bodies from 17-thru early 23 didn’t have the sill covers but were added to the high cowl touring bodies late 23-25. Is that right?

I know 1917s didn't have them. Without seeing the front of his car, I cannot determine the body/hood height.

I am fairly certain his chassis has the wrong running board brackets on it, if the picture he posted of the battery area is of his car.

Lang's says the sill covers run from 1919 to 1925 Howells says 1917 to 1925.

I have never found a set of these at swap meets. I covered the sills in my 21 Touring with some generic rubber matting. If you use the car much those metal covers will get very scratched in short order.

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:45 pm

I know 1917s didn't have them. Without seeing the front of his car, I cannot determine the body/hood height.

I am fairly certain his chassis has the wrong running board brackets on it, if the picture he posted of the battery area is of his car.

Lang's says the sill covers run from 1919 to 1925 Howells says 1917 to 1925.

It's a low hood, please enlighten me with regards to the running board brackets being wrong, how so. It is my car , picture at bottom when I picked it up, engine was out and came with a spare October 1920 engine.
Other pictures showing bracket rivets to frame and cowl (yes, I used the wrong head bolts because I like them).

Running board brackets in 23 were stamped, not forged as they appear to be on your chassis.

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:27 am

Running board brackets in 23 were stamped, not forged as they appear to be on your chassis.

Thanks, many things have made me question the year but parts swapping (by year) is so common, engine block change mostly , it's a Johnny Cash song car.
I think I'm going to cut the back end off anyway (car does not have correct parts so no big lose ) and make it into a pick up but I would like to have the sides blend with rear door opening and have the sides curved like original body shape, some depot hacks look to have curved sides. Like pictures but cleaner lines.

Has anyone on this forum done a touring car conversion ? If so can we/I see how it came out.
Picture below is from this forum, very nice car. This should be doable on a touring car. Would work great for farmers market.

John kuehn wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:21 pm

I’m thinking the low cowl touring bodies from 17-thru early 23 didn’t have the sill covers but were added to the high cowl touring bodies late 23-25. Is that right?

My early 23 doent have those metal covers. I am the 2nd owner of this low milage T.
My 20ish dosent have them either.

Whats the definitive answer??

Here are some new sill covers I bought for my 21 Touring but didn’t use. They are pretty nice. They were advertised by Howell sheet metal to fit 17-25 Touring sills. They do fit but I decided not to use them. I am planning to put these in the classifieds along with some mor T parts.

Caswell wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:43 pm

Has anyone on this forum done a touring car conversion ? If so can we/I see how it came out.
Picture below is from this forum, very nice car. This should be doable on a touring car. Would work great for farmers market.

The post right above your post showing a roadster pickup actually DO show touring cars that were converted.

Will_Vanderburg wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:48 pm

Caswell wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:43 pm

Has anyone on this forum done a touring car conversion ? If so can we/I see how it came out.
Picture below is from this forum, very nice car. This should be doable on a touring car. Would work great for farmers market.

The post right above your post showing a roadster pickup actually DO show touring cars that were converted.

I know that , that's why I posted the pictures. Has anyone on THIS forum done it, how did it turn out.
Shepps , Duplex pictures are of touring cars, the roadster would be a salesman set up

I restored the model t camel delivery. It was on a roadster not a touring. You are correct it is a very nice car. I restored it for Joe Southward in Olivet Michigan probably about 1997. It was sold after his death and I have lost track of it. It’s a 17 with a later set of wheels on it. Nice car and Joe was a very nice guy. I miss him and his wife Jane a lot.

Model T Mark wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:03 pm

I restored the model t camel delivery. It was on a roadster not a touring. You are correct it is a very nice car. I restored it for Joe Southward in Olivet Michigan probably about 1997. It was sold after his death and I have lost track of it. It’s a 17 with a later set of wheels on it. Nice car and Joe was a very nice guy. I miss him and his wife Jane a lot.

Thanks for sharing Mark, nice work.