How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
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How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
Guys: Looking for input. Got a block here that someone else has put modern valves in. Couple guides were bored off square with sear. Stick valve in and it is off center of tapper. Put pilot and not square with top of block. How to fix.
Thinking about bore with core drill, ream and drive in guide. But will that square it up? How have any of you fixed this problem?
Here is my email if you need it. Thanks Dan
Thinking about bore with core drill, ream and drive in guide. But will that square it up? How have any of you fixed this problem?
Here is my email if you need it. Thanks Dan
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
it depends on how bad it is. if off just a little a good piloted valve seat cutter will work.
if it is way off it will need new seats
if it is way off it will need new seats
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
Dan squaring up on a milling machine should do it on a slow plunge. It is in the car? If so maybe make up a guide and use a jobber long mill end.
Just an Idea,
Hank
Just an Idea,
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
I think Henry pretty much nailed it
As an ugly option to doing it right I will admit to doing the following once for a friend under his carport in blazing FL heat and humidity: Someone "reamed" with a hand drill and while the valves were new, they were not centered (though had a surprisingly good fit in the guide). The valves were at the largest size so there was no correcting the guides under the circumstances I was working.
As the valves were slightly canted and not centered over the seats, I sent the valves out to be kissed on the faces to ensure concentricity and I simply cut new seats in the block with a neway cutter and was done with it. Car ran great. Car was an eBay purchase and barely ran when he received it.
Now for the rest of the story...I am now the recipient of that shade tree job. Years later, my friend died, the car was sold to a guy in TN who cut off the pan ears, dropped the engine on the ground and promptly put an industrial engine in the car. Not knowing the butchery done on the engine, I agreed to buy it sight-unseen and it is sitting in my dad's garage in TN. So, hate me if you will for doing that kind of job, but the fates determined that I would live with those valves but not all of the pan.
As an ugly option to doing it right I will admit to doing the following once for a friend under his carport in blazing FL heat and humidity: Someone "reamed" with a hand drill and while the valves were new, they were not centered (though had a surprisingly good fit in the guide). The valves were at the largest size so there was no correcting the guides under the circumstances I was working.
As the valves were slightly canted and not centered over the seats, I sent the valves out to be kissed on the faces to ensure concentricity and I simply cut new seats in the block with a neway cutter and was done with it. Car ran great. Car was an eBay purchase and barely ran when he received it.
Now for the rest of the story...I am now the recipient of that shade tree job. Years later, my friend died, the car was sold to a guy in TN who cut off the pan ears, dropped the engine on the ground and promptly put an industrial engine in the car. Not knowing the butchery done on the engine, I agreed to buy it sight-unseen and it is sitting in my dad's garage in TN. So, hate me if you will for doing that kind of job, but the fates determined that I would live with those valves but not all of the pan.
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
Mounted on mill now. Had to order tooling. That is way I was thinking. Thanks guys.
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
My local machine shop mounts the block in a mill, and bores the old guide out to fit a replacement small block Chev guide.
Allan from down under.
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Re: How to square a valve guide hole to seat?
I would suggest using an flat face end mill in a milling machine to bore the guide hole, centering it from the valve seat. That way it will be less likely to follow the old hole. Once bored, ream to fit the new guide, press in a new guide a ream for valve clearance. Cut the valve seat to the guide hole. If I can help 903-824-1949