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Thanks to keith, I’ve corrected my post. Here are some samples, I’m sure there are others. The very early T and pre-T used similar fasteners to the Murphy, but different. I think appropriate for very early T, and certainly pre-T autos. I don’t have an example of a Murphy brand to show, but are the same and interchangeable with the Common Sense brand. Then, Lift-the-Dot , which is a brand and encompasses other fasteners, also called lift-the-dot, and finally post snaps. These also likely have a name, don’t know what it is, but generally these last two are common in the model A Ford and that era.

Those on the left are Burco Fasteners.

Thanks Keith!

Top left early hour glass Murphy Fastener. Up to '11
Top right oval base Murphy fastener. '12 - ?
Middle left original Murphy Fastener
Middle right reproduction double height Murphy fastener.
Bottom left original Murphy fastener.
Bottom right reproduction Murphy fasteners have screw head on the underside.

Keith

My '11 Torpedo has fasteners similar to the Murphys pictured above, except they say "dot" on them. Not to be confused with "lift-a-dot".

Tim,
Like this?

I’ll post some great stuff I stole off the interweb. Keep in mind, different folks have different names for some of this stuff, so be careful. There were regional differences, nicknames, etc, it’s a good resource to identify a lot of neat hardware used on our old cars.

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Well, that's "educational" as all hell !!! Thanks Tim !

KWTownsend wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:42 pm

Tim,
Like this?
common sense fastener dot.jpg

Now that Steve and the other Tim bounced my first response Keith I'll try again!
The answer to your question is "yup".

And also, I have no idea if they are "original T" or not. Maybe the "other Tim", my good friend i also call Tim I, will have an idea!

Tim II

What a nice collection of information. Here are a couple variations on the Murphy as well as one with an anchor symbol on it. I'm sure there were a lot of companies making their own version. Thanks
Rich

All of these fasteners were on one unrestored original 1911 touring:

These too.
I'm sure these was a bin of single height, and a bin on double height with all brands mixed in together...

Here is a nifty little set of replacement Anchor fasteners I picked up a while back:
Keith

Early Anchor fasteners had an A. I'm not sure if the Anchor picture came later. At some point Murphy and Bruco joined:
The Murphy Fastener was patented May 7, 1907: The Bourque Fastener was patented Jan 1919:

If you so a google search you can read all about the 1914 lawsuit between Murphy and the Metal Stamping Company...

: ^ )

Keith

Oh and the "glove fasteners" are Anzo fasteners. They are the predecessor to what we call today a "snap".
The stud of the Anzo passes through a hole in the side curtain and the top flap "snaps" onto the stud, sandwiching the side curtain in place.

Thank you for posting. I've been collecting so many of those fasteners and now I know the REAL names for the ones I didn't already know.

I believe that fastener with the DOT on it is a newly made variety. I've never seen an old stock common sense fastener with a flat top. I have hundreds of original common sense fasteners to prove it.

I believe you're correct Larry. I have at least 5 different original styles I've collected and they don't say dot.