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Post by Darren J Wallace » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:33 pm

Hi guys, today I am going to a name plate supply company I have used in the past to have this 1912, early 1913 Canadian ID tag replicated, as mine was sadly missing. These folks replicated some 1905 Queen ID plates for me a few years ago and they were perfect. My car had the only original ID plate known and I was able to help other Queen owners have an authentic ID plate. Indistinguishable from my original. I’m guessing these won’t be cheap but they will be very good quality. A good friend loaned me this one which was made many years ago in a very small limited run. If there’s enough interest, making a small run could bring the cost down. This won’t be a money maker for me, I’m just trying to help fellow T friends and interested in keeping the cost down as much as possible. The plates will cost you exactly what it costs me plus postage. If you’re seriously interested please state that here. As soon as they tell me the price and turnaround time, I’ll post that here. Thanks to my great friend Scott Kramer for the loan of the sample replica!
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Post by nsbrassnut » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:49 pm

Hi Darren

I'd be interested in one for sure for my '13 Canadian basket case. If the price is right two to have a spare on the shelf too.

Good luck.

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Post by Barry Loucks » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:40 pm

Question:

Shouldn’t it have ‘Ford Ontario’ rather than Walkerville? I understood it was known as Ford in 13 and 14!

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Post by Darren J Wallace » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:56 pm

Hi Barry, the later ‘13 & 14 and later plates do say Ford, Ontario. This plate is correct. Walkerville’s name was changed to Ford City shortly after. My radiator tag says Walkerville too. This plate was only used in 1912 and very early’13 Canadian T’s. I’ve seen a few originals and they do indeed say Walkerville. In fact, there’s at least two variations of this plate with the font of the lettering. A good friend of mine has one and the number on his plate matches his engine number. Interesting because it’s my understanding that the US made cars numbers don’t match so I am told.
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Post by Les Schubert » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:31 pm

I’m interested in one of the tags!
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Post by John Heaman » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:39 pm

This is the earlier style Canadian 1912 dash serial number plate. Just for reference.
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Post by Barry Loucks » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:23 pm

Thanks for the explanation Darren. My ‘13 has the steel coil box and a serial number that would indicate a late ‘13 build. That’s a real nice plate, but probably not correct for my car.

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Post by Allan » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:26 pm

There must be variants. I have an original plate, stamped with the number C1465. The four lines of patent numbers extend the full width of the plate. Under the SPECIAL NOTICE there are 8 lines of type and the font has each letter at least as wide as it is high.
The Ford Motor Company at the bottom is offset to the Left somewhat, with 'of Canada Limited' in much smaller print underneath
WALKERVILLE, ONT. is offset to the right t the edge of the plate.

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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:09 am

Allan is correct, here is the variation as per his description (I think😊)
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Post by Quickm007 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:19 am

If you are going to make also for 1911 & 1914 Canadian ID plates, I would like to have one of each if it is possible. Thank you
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:15 pm

I’m afraid I don’t have original examples to use for copying.
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Post by Lawrence » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:52 pm

I'm in for one thanks
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:52 pm

Great thanks Chris! I now have an actual original plate which I will be taking to the company replicating the new ones. Thanks to my good friend Larry Lautenschlager. His car has been in his family since new and I can tell you that his plate number matches his engine number. Here is his plate. Sorry it is upside down. If you click on the photo, it will look right side up. That’s my iPhone acting up. It is a variation of the replica that I have. I would prefer to use this as the template now that I have a choice. Hopefully I will know in the next week the cost and turnaround time. We now have interest from enough people to make seven plates. The more interest we get, the better the price will be.
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Post by John Heaman » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:31 pm

Not being familiar with the large style 1912 plate, am I to assume it is only for car production after June 4th, 1912 since that date is listed under the patents list.
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Post by Barry Loucks » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:45 pm

Aw heck, count me in for 1 too.

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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:51 pm

Here’s a Canadian fact that will throw a wrench into the history machine gears…. Larry’s plate above is off of an early 1914 Canadian touring! As I said, his family bought it brand new, it never left the family, and has all the paperwork and documentation for the car, and that plate was on it from new!
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Post by jmc » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:58 pm

I would like one as well


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Post by John Heaman » Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:10 pm

Interesting for sure!
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Post by Barry Loucks » Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:45 pm

So, if Henry had a few extra Made in Walkerville plates and the town name was changed to Ford, ya think he was going to scrap them?
This isn’t a trick question.
My Canadian 13, of which I’m to believe has had 5 owners including me is missing said plate but ignition switch which looks like it’s been there from day 1 says Ford Ontario on it. It’s a late ‘13 steel coil box, has the reinforced wood frame rails at the back. Were parts changed over the years? Sure. Was the ignition switch cover changed too? Maybe. When I got the car 20 years ago from a man who owned it since 1948, that’s what was on it. Kinda makes me think it always said Ford. My headlight chimneys say just Ford too. For whatever that’s worth.

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Post by Allan » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:20 pm

Did I read somewhere that the Walkerville plant began stamping blocks with the C prefix to the engine number in May 1913, co-inciding with major developments at the plant? Our earlier cars had engine numbers with no letter prefix, although my Sept 1912 assembled motor has a 3 digit number from the B series of blocks.

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Post by Darren J Wallace » Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:03 am

Allan wrote:
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Did I read somewhere that the Walkerville plant began stamping blocks with the C prefix to the engine number in May 1913, co-inciding with major developments at the plant? Our earlier cars had engine numbers with no letter prefix, although my Sept 1912 assembled motor has a 3 digit number from the B series of blocks.

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My car is a B series, number 872. It was sold new in Tavistock, Ontario, Canada in November of 1912
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:05 am

We now have 10 plates to be made
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Barry Loucks wrote:
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So, if Henry had a few extra Made in Walkerville plates and the town name was changed to Ford, ya think he was going to scrap them?
This isn’t a trick question.
My Canadian 13, of which I’m to believe has had 5 owners including me is missing said plate but ignition switch which looks like it’s been there from day 1 says Ford Ontario on it. It’s a late ‘13 steel coil box, has the reinforced wood frame rails at the back. Were parts changed over the years? Sure. Was the ignition switch cover changed too? Maybe. When I got the car 20 years ago from a man who owned it since 1948, that’s what was on it. Kinda makes me think it always said Ford. My headlight chimneys say just Ford too. For whatever that’s worth.

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Barry, my car had a metal coil box on it for much of its life. It should have a wood box and I have an original Heinze box with restored coils in it. My car also has the reinforcement brackets in the rear doors. I’m certain the coil box was changed because the Heinze coils started to fail and the original owner was keen for improvement from the local Ford dealer. My metal coil box indeed says Ford Ontario on it as well. It is a correct 1913 metal coil box. Probably changed within the car being a year or so old.
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Is it accurate plate for 1914 either? If yes, I'm in as well.
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Does anyone have a picture of the 'Made in Ford Ontario' version?
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Quickm007 wrote:
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Is it accurate plate for 1914 either? If yes, I'm in as well.
All I know at the moment is that Larry’s T is an early Canadian’14. I’ve asked him to check his records for a more accurate date. So potentially we have 11 now.
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:21 pm

We now have 12 interested people for this plate. I should have pricing this afternoon hopefully.
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More very interesting news. Larry’s Canadian 1914 touring car’s engine block was cast January 27th 1913. You can clearly see his engine number matches his ID plate.
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We now have 14 plates with interest.
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More very interesting news. Larry’s Canadian 1914 touring car’s engine block was cast January 27th 1913. You can clearly see his engine number matches his ID plate.

Nice find!
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Post by Barry Loucks » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:56 pm

On Larry’s ‘14 with the engine casting date in January 1913, is Made in USA ground off the block? Supposedly the first serialized ‘C’ prefixed block was stamped on May 20, 1913 in Walkerville/Ford Ontario.
Since these blocks were left to stress relive for some period of time, the casting date and serial number could have been many months apart.

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Barry Loucks wrote:
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On Larry’s ‘14 with the engine casting date in January 1913, is Made in USA ground off the block? Supposedly the first serialized ‘C’ prefixed block was stamped on May 20, 1913 in Walkerville/Ford Ontario.
Since these blocks were left to stress relive for some period of time, the casting date and serial number could have been many months apart.

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I spoke with him. Larry will look and report back. My “Made In USA” is ground off too.
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Post by Allan » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:24 am

I doubt the May date was the start of production of blocks cast in Canada. Too many of our blocks with C prefix numbers are clearly US castings with made in USA crudely removed. I wish I had recorded the details at the time, but at a clearing sale of an extensive collection of T parts, the makings of a 1911 model were on offer. However, while the block was cast in August, 1911, it carried a C prefix engine number. It makes some sort of sense to imagine a clean out of castings from a US facility unearthed some older castings at the back of the pile, and same would be last loaded and first off when they got to Canada.
Perhaps there is another explanation for the May start date for C prefix engine numbers.

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Post by Lawrence » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:41 am

Yeah, my 13 block is c3300, and usa ground off. New zealand

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Two more last night. Now we’re up to 16
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John Heaman wrote:
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Does anyone have a picture of the 'Made in Ford Ontario' version?
John, this plate was made a long time ago by Dixie Upholstery in Kitchener Ontario Canada. Unsure if it is still available. I had it on my car thinking it was correct a couple of years ago. I recently gave it away.
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Post by John Heaman » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:41 am

Thank you Darren for the picture. I would swear there was a version that said 'Made In Ford' also!?!
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Post by Barry Loucks » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:51 pm

Everything old is new again! I found a copy I’d made several years ago of Canadian Engine serial numbers. It came from the forum. The link was titled ‘List of Canadian Serial Numbers’ started on May 11, 2010 by Chris Kramer. I tried to copy the link but couldn’t.
It’s an interesting read. Many members weighing in on subjects discussed here as well as others. There was an employee of Ford of Canada, a Herman Smith who had access to paper records that were in Oakville Ontario where I believe Ford of Canada located their headquarters sometime after putting an assembly plant there. Mr. Smith was able to retrieve all sorts of information related to production from those early years.
If any of you more savy folks can pull that link in you’ll enjoy the read.

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Post by nsbrassnut » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:36 pm

Hi All

How about a bit of a snapshot when some of those early Canadian Ts actually hit the market.

Years ago the late Lucid Rioux, a founding member of the NB Antique Auto Club found and transcribed the early registration records for New Brunswick up to 1914. Fortunately for us, the records includes not only the NB Registration number and the make, but they also included the serial numbers and owners name.

An early C engine was registered in June of 1913 and C engines in the 4000 range were being registered in November. So if there is an original large Canadian square data plate with a C-2XXX number, then its likely that that plate was used through the entire 1913 Canadian model year and likely into the 1914 model year cars which would have started to be assembled in the fall if 1913.

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We are up to 18 now
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We now have 19 interested! Who wants to make it an even 20? Hopefully I hear from the company at the first of the week regarding pricing and shipping.
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Post by George Mills » Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:53 am

This was on one of the first C engines of surviving record that I was looking into a decade or so ago. Sorry, I forget the serial but it was listed as existing in Bruce book list. Unfortunately, Bruce was unable to put his finger on where he got the data in the first place.

If I find out more in my files, I’ll come back and edit.

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George Mills wrote:
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This was on one of the first C engines of surviving record that I was looking into a decade or so ago. Sorry, I forget the serial but it was listed as existing in Bruce book list. Unfortunately, Bruce was unable to put his finger on where he got the data in the first place.

If I find out more in my files, I’ll come back and edit.


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Darren J Wallace wrote:
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Barry Loucks wrote:
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On Larry’s ‘14 with the engine casting date in January 1913, is Made in USA ground off the block? Supposedly the first serialized ‘C’ prefixed block was stamped on May 20, 1913 in Walkerville/Ford Ontario.
Since these blocks were left to stress relive for some period of time, the casting date and serial number could have been many months apart.

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I spoke with him. Larry will look and report back. My “Made In USA” is ground off too.
Larry's engine still has the "Made In USA" on it. It was apparently missed!
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Post by Allan » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:32 pm

I am more inclined to believe the plate George shows is another of what may be reproduction plates, given its unknown history. The real plate shown is an exact duplicate of the original I have. After more than 100 years, they both show black background paint that is so thin you can see the brass underneath. That is hard to replicate. Anyway, with a nice original to produce the new plates, it's all a bit academic.

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Allan wrote:
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I am more inclined to believe the plate George shows is another of what may be reproduction plates, given its unknown history. The real plate shown is an exact duplicate of the original I have. After more than 100 years, they both show black background paint that is so thin you can see the brass underneath. That is hard to replicate. Anyway, with a nice original to produce the new plates, it's all a bit academic.

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Allan, you may be right. I just noticed George’s plate has no number on it. I didn’t look carefully before posting….
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Post by nsbrassnut » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:11 pm

Hi all

I tend to agree with Allan about the last plate pictured. It appears to have no engine number stamped on it and it just doesn't have that "look" of something that was on the dash for 100+ years. I think it may be one of the earlier reproduction plates.

Its hard to imagine Ford sending one out of a shop without a number on the plate.

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The plate in question was on the car before about 1963 as the car was ‘put up’ then, never worked on from there, guy got old, guy died, widow asked me first to look it over and make her an offer. The chassis was complete, but what do I know about Canadian? Zippo! There was body tin, but no wood, there was a bowset…I decided to pass.

I want to say it was a C-13xx serial and I know the car was verified as to cast date/actual build date by the then Walkerville equivalent to Les Henry. For what it’s’ worth.

Darren...The guy that eventually bought the car is named John Carter and he hasn't posted on here in a while, but if you would PM him and ask for a photo of the plate showing perhaps a C number in place and ask him about the cast date v. build date...v. what was ground off...he really is a nice guy!

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Thank you so much George for chiming in here and clarifying things. This is all very valuable information and I’m very appreciative of your efforts! I will try to reach out to John.
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The data plate discussed above is on our car and I have assumed that it was an old reproduction. It has not been stamped as best I can tell.

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Thank you John for clarifying.
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We're now up to 22 plates.

I'm going to have an even 24 made, and that's it for this run. I may keep one or two as spares for now...

I had to put a cut-off date today, sorry.

22 of them are spoken for. I will soon be getting the artwork for approval. After that, the turnaround time is about 2 weeks. To clarify, we are using Larry's ORIGINAL Canadian plate for the artwork and NOT the replica.

Thanks to everyone who has expressed an interest! Your interest has made this project very affordable! It will be amended for 24 tonight.

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Way to go Darren. Just don't replicate the missing corner at the nail hole! :D

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Ha ha Allen! :lol: :lol: :lol: Just a quick update...

This was the quote I received when I thought I was only doing 14 plates. I'm still waiting for pricing for 24 plates. Hopefully, it will be a little cheaper than what you see here. I will post the FINAL pricing quote as soon as I know it. Once I get the final quote, then they will email me the artwork for approval. I will post that here so EVERYONE can see what the plates will look like.

As I mentioned earlier, these folks did some replica ID tags for me for other Queen automobile owners using my original. They more than surpassed my finicky attention to detail expectations as far as authenticity and quality goes.

!!!PLEASE NOTE!!!

At this time I can NO longer accept anymore requests for these plates. This info is ONLY for those who have ALREADY contacted me personally, or made their interest already known in the ABOVE contribution posts. Sorry.
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:38 pm

I received the final pricing quote today.

For those that are in the queue, the plates are now $19.42 each, in Canadian dollars, and of course shipping will be an additional charge. I am awaiting the final artwork now, so when it becomes available, it will be displayed here.

I'm very pleased that this project has become very affordable for everyone!
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Thank you Darren - the group buy is a bargain!

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Thanks! I was told I should receive artwork Monday or Tuesday.
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Thank you Daren,

I can't wait.

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Thanks! We’re still waiting for the artwork. I will post it here so you can see what we’re getting made. Hopefully soon.
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Update: Name plate company sent me artwork for approval today but unfortunately they used the replica I had rather than the original one they also had. Just to show you how good a job they do, here is the artwork: note, I am not using this one, and am now waiting or them to do this all over again with the original plate. Sorry this is taking so long....
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My apologies for the delay, I finally have the correct artwork from the name plate company using the original plate Larry supplied. It looks great but I cannot post it until later tonight on my computer instead of my phone right now. I would really appreciate it if all interested parties would chime in and tell me what you think when I post the artwork. Thanks!
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:04 pm

Okay......

This is the NEW artwork from Larry's original I.D. plate. There are three small errors which they will be fixing in the next day or so shown circled here in red. The first error is the date of "Nov. 25", should be "29". The second error is the number at the end of the "REGISTRATION, No. 13.350." This number needs to be "16350," . Third, there's a period where there should be a comma after the word "WALKERVILLE" in the second last line.

Other than that, I'm happy with the artwork and will tell them to proceed.

If you have any questions or concerns please let me know asap, as I would like to get this project to completion.

Thanks for your patience! Here is the artwork and the original plate. I blew up the one pic so you could see the fonts easier for comparison.
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Darren, they have done a darn nice job. If they are open to improvements, and you want to implement them, some attention could be given to the

Ford Motor Company of Canada limited at the base of the plate.

The top of the F needs to extend half way across the d in Ford, and the leg of the F needs to be reshaped at the bottom.
The first leg of the M in Motor needs to be longer and the last leg needs a bigger loop too. Then the of Canada Limited can be level with the bottom of the loop and can extend under a shorter leg on the p in Company.

Nit picky, but not sure just how accurate you want to be and they are willing to be.

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Looks great Darren, well done. Look forward to purchasing mine from you. Chris, NZ

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Went to see the company this morning and I’ve told them about the F and the M details. I should have all amendments shortly for approval.
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Engines with a serial number starting with B were built in the USA by Ford at the Highland factory and are 1913 models.

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Here is the revised artwork with the "F"ord "M"otor fonts changed and mistakes corrected as per all your suggestions. There are still two mistakes. A period that should be a comma, and a comma that shouldn't be there. ugh.....

They are circled in white.

I will get them to fix both. After these corrections, I'm moving forward and approving the artwork. I truly hope everyone is pleased with the results.
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Just to add my thoughts.... Even though there have been mistakes made here, they will be corrected. These folks are good people and try very hard to make us all happy. I had a direct face to face conversation with them today and they have been very easy to work with.

I hope none of this will deter anyone from wanting one of these plates. Thanks for your understanding!
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Engines with a serial number starting with B were built in the USA by Ford at the Highland factory and are 1913 models.
I agree, my car is basically a 1912 chassis with a 1913 body and radiator. The radiator has a Canadian tag so I feel the car should have a Canadian ID tag.
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:41 pm

Final artwork, everything is fixed. I'm very happy with the results and will proceed to approve artwork immediately. They tell me that the plates will take 1-2 weeks.

Hope everyone is happy with the results!
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Post by Quickm007 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:45 pm

Great job Darren! Well done!
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Thanks, after correcting a small missing detail in the large
Ford “d”, the plates are now in production. I should have them hopefully next week. I made a list of all the folks who wanted these plates and their quantity they asked for. I will announce here when they’re ready and then try to contact all interested parties. Thanks!
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Just a quick update….plates should be done in a few days hopefully. I’ll post here when they’re ready and start contacting all the folks who had interest first. I did make a list. After that if there’s any left over I’ll post that in the classifieds.
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:26 pm

Picking up the ID plates tomorrow!
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:41 pm

The plates turned out beautiful! I forgot to add the Canadian applicable taxes to the final cost so the plates are $22.35 each, in Canadian funds. I will have to figure out the shipping costs for all of you so please be patient. If you originally asked for a plate(s), you’re on my list. If you are on the list and haven’t sent me your mailing address, please do so asap. Thanks! I will start getting a hold of all of you asap.

Also!!!! The plates have a mylar coating on them that you peel off. It’s not shown in this photo. They appear that they look like the paint is “marbled” but I can assure you that is not the case.😊
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Post by Lawrence » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:56 pm

Sent pm. Thanks for your efforts Darren.
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:10 pm

Beautiful!
Really makes me wish I had a car that needed one.
Ya done good.

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Post by KWTownsend » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:51 pm

Nice work!
Good to have a part that is accurately reproduced.

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Post by Darren J Wallace » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:59 pm

Thanks guys for your compliments!

Just a heads up to all the interested parties: your plate(s) are ready to mail, and I will be getting all of your individual mailing costs tomorrow.

There are no plates left for late inquiries, sorry.

If there’s interest here or on Facebook, there’s a possibility for a second run but they won’t be $22.35 each unless I get another 24 made.
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:47 am

Hi guys,
All the plates to the interested parties here from Canada and the USA have already been mailed. Thanks to those who have settled up with me already too!
The plates to be mailed to New Zealand and Australia are delayed due to Covid-19’s restrictions with Canada Post.
I have notified everyone involved and if you haven’t seen your email hopefully you’ll see this notice. Your plates will be safe and they’re already packed up for shipping and will go out as soon as restrictions are lifted.

There is a possibility of a second run of these plates if there’s enough interest. Facebook inquiries have been coming in and I almost have enough interest for 12 at the moment. I’m not going to do another run unless I get enough for another run of 24.
If you are interested, please let me know. Thanks!
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Post by Darren J Wallace » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:27 pm

Some of the plates are arriving at their destinations and the kind words coming in about how happy everyone is and how much they like the quality of the artwork makes me feel this was really worth it! It’s a great feeling when I know I’ve helped Canadian Ford enthusiasts from literally around the globe complete their cars. Thanks to everyone who had an interest in getting a plate!

There is enough interest off of the internet to possibly do another run of 24. We’ll see…..😊
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