Old Photo-Heat your house with coal oil

[Herb Iffrig]

[Pep C Strebeck]

Is it just me or does the gentleman on the running board have his gaters on backwards?

[Wayne Sheldon]

I believe that is the correct way to wear that style of leather leggings. Research has shown that they were worn opening forward turned out. I have several pair like that and used to wear them in my speedster. Now my legs are too fat. It may not seem natural to today's sense of aesthetics, but many ear photographs and catalogs show them that way.

[Hap_Tucker]

Herb,

Great photo. Any hints on where it might have been taken?

Note it is a Right Hand Drive runabout/roadster. Non-starter assuming the side lamps are original to the car. And the 5 lug aftermarket demountable rims For USA cars it has the unequal length windshield brackets and later mid 1917-1922 style windshield brackets.

The T style van on the right appears to have the USA "green visor" headlamp lense -- which was used for a short time during 1921 in the USA (ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/I-O.htm#lamps that says:

1921-1923 (USA)
HEADLAMPS
Catalog photos of the green- visored lens used for a short time in 1921 and the Ford “H” lens which became standard shortly after.
6511DX, 6511EX, and 6511HX (Battery)
6511KX (Magneto)
The 6511DX used a frosted “Tu-Lite” bulb with a clear lens. Early in 1921 the 6511DX clear lens was replaced with the 6511EX which had green “visor” and used a clear “Tu-Lite” bulb. The “Tu-Lite” bulb was 6-8 volt, 18 and 2-3/4 C.P. About June 1921 the 6511HX with the Ford “H” fluted lens became standard, and continued through 1925 in the passenger cars. The 6511KX used in non-starter cars used a double contact 6-8 volt, 21 C.P. bulb. The dimming inductance is mounted behind the area where the ammeter would have been.

Someone with good "photoshop" style skills might be able to make out what the license plate on the Van on the right side says or perhaps even what the license plate on the rear of the Runabout says?

I do NOT see a horn button. That would be a nice clue -- The Canadian cars never used the USA style combination horn/light switch on the steering column. But for 1916-early 1920 they did use the the USA 1915 early 1917 horn button that mounted flat on top of the steering column. And in 1920 they introduced the slant windshield, one-man-top, and horn button mounted on top of the steering wheel. But in the photo we can zoom in and see that the steering wheel is held on with a normal steering wheel nut.

I'm leaning towards a mid 1917-1919 Canadian runabout -- but that I would need additional details to tell for sure. For USA cars I would lean towards a 1918-1922 non-starter with the horn button missing or just not visible in the photo. Why -- rectangular top irons. Note in the USA, the runabout/roadster bodies continued in the earlier 1915-1920 style longer than the touring bodies.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off

[jaxenro]

Equestrian gaiters were worn like that and had the strap at the top