Round #2- Identify this hood?

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
Speedsterguy2
Posts: 37
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Knapp
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Speedster (project)
Location: Wilsonville, Oregon

Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Speedsterguy2 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:52 pm

OK, I will play. Thanks Bryant for Round #1 on 11/11! This hood is destined for the speedster under construction. Side panels measure about 34" long, and 14" tall. The hood is wide, something like 26 or 28" at the radiator end, and is heavier metal than a Model T hood. Looks like it came from a much larger car than a "T". 14 angled louvers on each side. Does anyone recognize what it came from? Thx / Tim
Attachments
20211112_152241.jpg
20211112_152255.jpg
20211112_152346.jpg
20211112_154638.jpg


Bryant
Posts: 1035
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:11 pm
First Name: bryant
Last Name: shafer
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 tudor
Location: myersville maryland
MTFCA Number: 51736
Board Member Since: 2021

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Bryant » Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:56 pm

DD2738CE-B099-4912-AB95-090ED514E62F.jpeg
DD2738CE-B099-4912-AB95-090ED514E62F.jpeg (63.65 KiB) Viewed 2004 times
maybe this thing? 20s Haynes sedan. Just a guess. Has slanted louvers 😁
“Whether you think you can, or think you can’t-you’re right.”


Wayne Sheldon
Posts: 3637
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:13 pm
First Name: Wayne
Last Name: Sheldon
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 Runabout 1913 Speedster
Location: Grass Valley California, USA
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:14 pm

A lot of uncommon marques had slanted louvers. One of the more common marques in the late 1910s and early 1920s to have slanted louvers was Oldsmobile. I think maybe some Oakland cars also.


Topic author
Speedsterguy2
Posts: 37
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Knapp
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Speedster (project)
Location: Wilsonville, Oregon

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Speedsterguy2 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:16 am

Well, Bryant's suggestion looks pretty good. I have looked on the internet and in my Automobile Quarterlies and have not been able to find any Haynes that looks like this one.

Wayne's suggestions may be good too. I searched Oaklands and did not come up with anything close. In looking at Oldsmobiles, it looks like there are several possibilities from the late 'teens and early '20's. Model 37-B maybe, and some others seem to have hoods with slanted louvers of about the right proportions. Most photos do not allow me to see and count all the louvers. Still looking for something definate....... / Tim

User avatar

TRDxB2
Posts: 5407
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
First Name: Frank
Last Name: Brandi
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedster (1919 w 1926)
Location: Moline IL
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:47 am

I found several makes with slated louvers - the but none matched the hold down bracket or the position of the handle wasn't the same. Hard to count louvers. So I'm going with a Humpmobile in the 1920's
Attachments
hoodz2.png
hoodz3.png
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger


Bryant
Posts: 1035
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:11 pm
First Name: bryant
Last Name: shafer
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 tudor
Location: myersville maryland
MTFCA Number: 51736
Board Member Since: 2021

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Bryant » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:07 am

DF844055-2994-4D0C-B081-2DD120065D8C.jpeg
how about this one? Has 14 “visible” louvers. The center hinge is exposed upward. Hood latch looks close. Came up under a Haynes search but honestly I don’t know what it is 🤔. Iam having fun looking thou! What a great game we are playing
“Whether you think you can, or think you can’t-you’re right.”


Topic author
Speedsterguy2
Posts: 37
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Knapp
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Speedster (project)
Location: Wilsonville, Oregon

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Speedsterguy2 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:25 pm

I agree with Bryant that both the Haynes photos he found look like good candidates. The problem is we need to see a little bit more or different angle on the hood pictures. I have been looking and can say with confidence that it is NOT any of these Haynes models:
1917 - Model 36
1919 - Sedan & Touring
1921 - Model 50
1922 - Model 47 and Model 75
1923 - Model 55 and Model 60

How many other models did Haynes make during that period? Apparently at lease a couple that show in Bryant's photos!

I think the Oldsmobile photos look pretty close too, and Frank's close-ups help. His photo of a Model 45 has 15 louvers, which will not not match my 14 louvers no matter HOW hard I try. How many other Oldsmobile years and models were there that might have had 14?

None of the Hupmobile photos look particularly close to my hood, but again there may be other models. / Tim


Southfork Creek
Posts: 171
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:13 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Wightman
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 Touring
Location: Phoenix AZ
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Southfork Creek » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:41 pm

I love slanted louver hoods. The car looks likes it's going fast just sitting. Here is a 1922ish Lexington
Attachments
1919ish Lexington.jpg


Southfork Creek
Posts: 171
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:13 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Wightman
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 Touring
Location: Phoenix AZ
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Southfork Creek » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:18 pm

This photo is just too good not to post! 1920 Pike's Peak champ!!
Attachments
1920-ca-LEXINGTON-Car-No-7-at-dealer-color-AC-2.jpg


Topic author
Speedsterguy2
Posts: 37
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Knapp
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Speedster (project)
Location: Wilsonville, Oregon

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by Speedsterguy2 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:05 pm

Well, I have continued to research online and have come up with just ONE contender that I cannot fault: 1923 Oldsmobile Model 30 Deluxe. It may be called a Model 30-A, and the hood may continue to a 1924 Olds Model 30-B. The problem seems to be that Oldsmobile at that time was producing several models, some that were continued year after year nearly unchanged, and some that changed rather quickly. The 1923 Model 30-A appears to change by year: 1924 30-B, 1925 30-C, 1926 30-D, 1927 30-E.

Only the earliest of the Model 30-A seems to have had the rounded, horseshoe shaped radiator shell. Virtually overlapping in production seems to be a more square-shouldered radiator shell that used a different hood, but also sometimes labeled (now) as Model 30. The photos showing the early version of the horseshoe radiator for 1923 are all Touring Car bodies, though there is an early advertising photo (shown on Alamy, copyrighted) shows a Coupe that appears to have the early radiator and hood. There is a white Touring Car on Catawiki (licensed, online) that appears to have the early radiator and hood. This car also shows up on Youtube and on ERClassics.com. There is a Salmon colored Touring Car on Flickr (licensed, online) attributed to Richard Spiegelman that is identified as a 1924 Model 30-B that has the early radiator and hood.

The best showing is attached below. Identified as a 1923 Olds Model 30 Deluxe, 6 cylinder, this photo is on Wikimedia.commons, Creative Commons 2.0, attributed to "Sicnag", with photo reproduction allowed for non-commercial use. The hood close-up clearly shows the 14 hood louvers (not the 10, 12, 13, or 15 louvers found on other Oldsmobile models!) I believe that THIS is the hood I have for my speedster project. / Tim
Attachments
1923 Olds Model 30 Dlx..png
1923 Olds Model 30 Dlx. Hood Only.png
1923 Olds Model 30 Dlx. Hood Only.png (212.64 KiB) Viewed 1554 times


J Sundstrom
Posts: 61
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Sundstrom
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1920 Touring
Location: Vulcan, MI

Re: Round #2- Identify this hood?

Post by J Sundstrom » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:40 am

Looks like Jed could have used that hood.
Attachments
E5F68966-2BD6-4E57-91C2-68B1751CDEBB.png

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic