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Gaskets

Post by Chucksue » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:12 pm

Who sells quality gaskets?

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Re: Gaskets

Post by DanTreace » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:55 pm

Gasket sets from the Model T vendors, listed on the home page here, are just fine. Can't really tell variations to these. Most kits sell for $35 w/o head gasket. That adds another $18 -$29 depending on the type of head gasket you want. So about $60 for vendor non-branded sets that always perform for me.

On-line you can buy name brand "FelPro" gasket kit for the Model T, but it is an obsolete part so comes with the associated 'obsolete' part price. Typical offerings on that set are $140 - $160, but Summit site still shows the kit as complete, but the photo shows no timing cover gasket, so don't know if it is included or not. But at that high price, the Model T vendors that supply our needs, have a lower purchase price and besides, they support our hobby too.
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Re: Gaskets

Post by Chucksue » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:56 am

I bought gaskets for the rear axle. None of them fit. They were all to small. I’m thinking about using a stainless steel shim to replace the gasket and then seal it with permatex. The gasket for the rearend halves was 1/2 “ too short.


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Re: Gaskets

Post by speedytinc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:11 am

Chucksue wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:56 am
I bought gaskets for the rear axle. None of them fit. They were all to small. I’m thinking about using a stainless steel shim to replace the gasket and then seal it with permatex. The gasket for the rearend halves was 1/2 “ too short.
Thats not a gasket, its a shim. Axle housings didnt have gaskets. Get your clearences & assemble with ultra black silicone.
Otherwise, in general paper gaskets dry out & shrink. Soak them in water to get them back to size.

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Re: Gaskets

Post by DanTreace » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:13 am

Paper gaskets that are very thin and narrow like those shrink when dry. Just spray with water and they become flexible again and full size.

Remember too much gasket at the pumpkin halves can separate your desired fit established for the thrust washers.
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Re: Gaskets

Post by Mark Gregush » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:59 am

I have been leaving the rear end center section gasket out unless need just a smige more clearance, I use Permatex #2. While there may be some variations between the suppliers parts suppliers, they pretty much are all the same gaskets. Yes, plant fiber (paper) gaskets do shrink over time as they dry out if the gaskets have been on the shelf for a while, as do the cork composite.
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Re: Gaskets

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:29 pm

Some gaskets are best bought ready-made (front cover, generator mount, pan). Others are easily made at home with gasket paper from the local parts store (water inlet & outlet, carb-to-manifold, Bendix cover, et al.)
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Gaskets

Post by Allan » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:42 pm

If you need a gasket/shim to set up the two halves, you could just remove the same thickness from the right hand side bronze thrust washer. If you trim the left side washer, it may upset your pinion/crown wheel mesh. Then assemble with the sealant of your choosing.

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Re: Gaskets

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am

Ford added a housing gasket in 1919, so in fact we are leaving them out and just using sealer. The gaskets between the pinion housing and center were not used, and are shims to adjust the depth of the pinion gear.
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Re: Gaskets

Post by speedytinc » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:44 am

Mark Gregush wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am
Ford added a housing gasket in 1919, so in fact we are leaving them out and just using sealer. The gaskets between the pinion housing and center were not used, and are shims to adjust the depth of the pinion gear.
Maybe anecdotal, but I have parted out MANY rear ends.
Never seen any signs of a gasket between the housings. FWIW.
Something to research further,

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Re: Gaskets

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:26 am

Mark Gregush wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am
Ford added a housing gasket in 1919, so we are leaving them out and just using sealer. The gaskets between the pinion housing and center were not used, and are shims to adjust the depth of the pinion gear.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Gaskets

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:29 am

I "think" I have, but in truth, really was not paying enough attention to log it into my memory. :lol:
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Re: Gaskets

Post by DanTreace » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:15 pm

Paragraph 617 notes to place that axle case gasket ;)

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Re: Gaskets

Post by Michael Peternell » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:59 pm

Sad to say but one of the people producing paper gaskets is not with us anymore.


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Re: Gaskets

Post by rays22t » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:57 am

Yes, we miss you already Andy!


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Re: Gaskets

Post by Cntryboy56 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:49 pm

Amen to that Ray.

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