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Hello Fellow Model Ters,
I am restoring my 1911 Touring Car that has a 1926/7 drivetrain. Today, while priming a bunch of its parts I discovered that the steering bracket has been shortened. A past owner has sawed off 3/8 inch from the leading end. I remember the car steering fine with this modification back when I drove it before taking it apart.
So, my questions are;
(1), why would someone remove 3/8” from the front end of a steering bracket?
And (2), Will this modification cause me problems on the road?
Photographs show two normal unmodified steering brackets, (one in a 1913 Roadster and a second spare) and my shortened one with fresh paint.
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Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
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NorthSouth
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
The 26/7 bracket is shorter. Perhaps someone in the past shortened an earlier one to try and match the late bracket.
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speedytinc
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
Taking into account the shorter bracket of the improved model and the use of balloon tires creating more steering effort as compared to your hi pressure tires, I would expect NO issue using the trimmed bracket.
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
could have been running a non-T ignition/timing that required the spark advance control rod to be positioned such that the end of the bracket interfered with the advance? Just a guess.
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NorthSouth
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
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Examples of 1909-1927 Model T steering brackets.
Credit: The Model T Ford Club International Inc. Judging Guidelines, Seventh Edition.
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Examples of 1909-1927 Model T steering brackets.
Credit: The Model T Ford Club International Inc. Judging Guidelines, Seventh Edition.
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Humblej
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
Just get a replacement bracket. The end is where the load is applied to the shaft from the pitman arm.
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
Possibly miss matched parts, short steering shaft or badly worn parts causing the pitman arm to pull on too far causing binding?
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Re: Why would someone cut the front end off a steering bracket?
Steven, The Ford script tells me the bracket is 1919 or later, so not a 1911 part.
It probably does not make any difference that it has been modified, but if an unmodified one was handy, I'd use it. I don't know enough about the chassis of the improved model to know if there us a specific one for your application
: ^ )
K EI th
It probably does not make any difference that it has been modified, but if an unmodified one was handy, I'd use it. I don't know enough about the chassis of the improved model to know if there us a specific one for your application
: ^ )
K EI th