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Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:30 am
by Dan Hatch
Anyone here used the Felpro head gasket? I known that it is only available in a full set, but is it any good?
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:32 am
by Henry K. Lee
They work well Dan, have used a few over years when the copper was in short supply before.
Hank
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:50 pm
by Mark Nunn
Dan, would you be willing to share your source for these?
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:06 pm
by Steve Jelf
I ordered a couple of these from Adam after using the one he installed in my engine. I'm not familiar with the Felpro gasket, so I don't know if these are similar.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:05 pm
by Dan Hatch
Look up Felpro # FS 7012B.
That is Felpro part number for a Full set, only way they make it. Cost is way more than what a T guy would pay. But if it works better then the crap we get now.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:44 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Dan Hatch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:05 pm
Look up Felpro # FS 7012B.
That is Felpro part number for a Full set, only way they make it. Cost is way more than what a T guy would pay. But if it works better then the crap we get now.
$150 at Summit Racing,
https://www.summitracing.com/search/bra ... erm=felpro
About $175.00 elsehwere.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:02 pm
by Steve Jelf
I will skip the kit, not only because of the price. Some of those gaskets I don't use, and some I make myself.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:50 pm
by Oldav8tor
Sooo.... any news of new copper gaskets becoming available anytime soon? Sounds like a small business opportunity for someone with the skills and equipment to make them.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:10 pm
by Henry K. Lee
If some of you have seen what it takes as a machine to punch, clean, dress, and press crimp a copper head gasket and the maintenance.., $150.00 is dirt cheap. It is called limited markets to supply. Those dies alone are about $80,000.00 dollars and from my understanding the folks who were making them, their dies are worn completely out. All businesses have a Return On Investment, ROI. Just Sayin', get them before there are none.
For the likes of me I still cannot understand why so many are afraid of reusing original copper head gaskets. Simply can be used about 4 times by soaking in a tub of water for two days, let dry for a week. They used black shellac back in the day or silver spray. Today.., use Permatex spray copper, retorque after about three or four hot cold cycles. It is only a 5.5 or 6 to 1 compression ratio. No one reads old mechanic books but would rather search the internet for the easiest and of the majority opinion. How many of your cars over the years have reused head gaskets? I bet more than you know!
Hank
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:59 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:10 pm
If some of you have seen what it takes as a machine to punch, clean, dress, and press crimp a copper head gasket and the maintenance.., $150.00 is dirt cheap. It is called limited markets to supply. Those dies alone are about $80,000.00 dollars and from my understanding the folks who were making them, their dies are worn completely out. All businesses have a Return On Investment, ROI. Just Sayin', get them before there are none.
For the likes of me I still cannot understand why so many are afraid of reusing original copper head gaskets. Simply can be used about 4 times by soaking in a tub of water for two days, let dry for a week. They used black shellac back in the day or silver spray. Today.., use Permatex spray copper, retorque after about three or four hot cold cycles. It is only a 5.5 or 6 to 1 compression ratio. No one reads old mechanic books but would rather search the internet for the easiest and of the majority opinion. How many of your cars over the years have reused head gaskets? I bet more than you know!
Hank
You don't need punch press dies. A simple and far cheaper steel rule die would do it. But yes, it does need assembly and crimping.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:10 pm
by Alan Long
I can recall when both my Grandfather and Father reused Copper Head Gaskets several times over.
As with anything, you only get what you pay for and most times it’s false economy to go the cheap option.
You may well find yourself redoing a job (at great expense of time, money and vehicle reliability) because you saved a few $
on a critical part such as Head Gaskets, Tyres, Tubes, Band Material.........
I try to get the best item available at the time and prefer original worn Ford parts to repo’s. There are of course always exceptions....Model T’s have many of them!
Alan in Western Australia
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:25 pm
by Tmooreheadf
Rockauto gasket set $145
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:50 pm
by Oldav8tor
I am not a machinist, but I have seen metal cut in precise shapes by modern CNC's, laser cutters, high pressure water jets, etc. Copper would be a lot easier to cut than steel. For the number of gaskets that would be needed to support the hobby wouldn't that be a cost-effective way to make them? Maybe I'm missing something.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:04 pm
by Dan Hatch
Does rock auto show in stock?
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:13 pm
by Steve Jelf
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:48 am
by Scott C.
Felpro makes quality gaskets. I would not hesitate to use them. So, if that is all that is currently available, then it's a good deal.
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:17 pm
by Art M
Will the steel head gaskets work. They worked 50 years ago on Chevy V8. Why not a model t. Just wondering if anyone tried and how successful.
Art Mirtes
Re: Felpro head gasket ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:34 pm
by Henry K. Lee
They work excellent Art, just use copper spray on both sides!
Hank