Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
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Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Hey folks. I am looking for some old stock interior screws for a 1926 T Coupe- matching existing well patina'ed slotted screws (flat and oval) for the door garnish and panel on which the amp meter sits (instrument panel). Does anyone have some old left overs out there in their garage, barn etc that they would be willing to part with for a price? Happy to buy them! Obviously I can go to ANY screw supplier but the new ones will stick out like a billboard. THANK YOU! Pictures attached.
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Re: Wanted TO BUY Machine and wood SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Snyder’s and Lang’s used to stock complete interior sets of slotted nickel plated oval head machine screws and square nuts with the proper head sizes. Although they are new, when compared to the originals you can’t tell the difference, as they are identical to the originals. I don’t know if they still stock them, but that is where I got mine for my ‘26 coupe. I went to the Lang’s site (see first picture) and they don’t appear to be a complete set, so you may need to buy several sets. In the second picture, Snyder’s looks to have the complete set. The nickel plated screws look great! Jim Patrick
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Re: Wanted TO BUY Machine and wood SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Thank you Mr. Bartow. Every vendor sells the kits. I can even buy the #8 or #10s in some stores one off. Problem is I don't want new screws that look new and shiny in the car. It will look odd to me. I want to find some old well patina'ed machine screws lying around that will match what I have now. If I replace all the screws it will just seem odd to see all these shiny nickel things in my well aged 100 year old T. If I put in a few new ones next to the old ones, it will look even odder. I am hoping I can scrape together a few screws - 12 or less from a bunch of T folks on the Forum. Who else would have some - ie well patina'ed old screws they might have in their tool boxes over the years of doing repairs! You folks would!
Now if they were non visible screws - it would be a different story - but the Instrument Panel and Door Garnish are very visible.
Now if they were non visible screws - it would be a different story - but the Instrument Panel and Door Garnish are very visible.
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
How about putting the threaded end of the new oval headed screws in a drill press and while running, sand off the plating, then bury the screws in a container of wet dirt until they achieve the amount of rust and age you desire or until the patina matches the original ones in your car. Jim Patrick
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
If you can find all of what you need you might try to chemically age them. I probably have what you need but sizes?
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This is a very common method - white vinegar is cleaning vinegar
https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-rust-metal/
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This is a very common method - white vinegar is cleaning vinegar
https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-rust-metal/
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Lisa
Ospho is an etchant which is diluted phosphoric acid. It is used to prepare bare or rusty metal for painting. With enough work, and a scotchbrite pad, even heavily rusted parts can be brought back to rust-free condition. That is what it is intended to be used for.
There is, however, another thing it will do: it will remove zinc plating from hardware. A brief immersion and the plating will dull; an extended immersion will show fine bubbles foaming off the part and will thoroughly remove the plating (you don't want that for your project). You want to knock off the shine (dull it) and maybe buff it gently with a hand held scotchbrite pad to get a nice even color/patina which should still have some resistance to rust. I think you'll like how it will come out.
Ospho is an etchant which is diluted phosphoric acid. It is used to prepare bare or rusty metal for painting. With enough work, and a scotchbrite pad, even heavily rusted parts can be brought back to rust-free condition. That is what it is intended to be used for.
There is, however, another thing it will do: it will remove zinc plating from hardware. A brief immersion and the plating will dull; an extended immersion will show fine bubbles foaming off the part and will thoroughly remove the plating (you don't want that for your project). You want to knock off the shine (dull it) and maybe buff it gently with a hand held scotchbrite pad to get a nice even color/patina which should still have some resistance to rust. I think you'll like how it will come out.
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
SCOTT! THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Funny thing is I was researching if there were options chemically. You just provided a HUGE ASSIST. LisaScott_Conger wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:27 pmLisa
Ospho is an etchant which is diluted phosphoric acid. It is used to prepare bare or rusty metal for painting. With enough work, and a scotchbrite pad, even heavily rusted parts can be brought back to rust-free condition. That is what it is intended to be used for.
There is, however, another thing it will do: it will remove zinc plating from hardware. A brief immersion and the plating will dull; an extended immersion will show fine bubbles foaming off the part and will thoroughly remove the plating (you don't want that for your project). You want to knock off the shine (dull it) and maybe buff it gently with a hand held scotchbrite pad to get a nice even color/patina which should still have some resistance to rust. I think you'll like how it will come out.
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Topic author - Posts: 223
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Thank you!jiminbartow wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 12:09 pmHow about putting the threaded end of the new oval headed screws in a drill press and while running, sand off the plating, then bury the screws in a container of wet dirt until they achieve the amount of rust and age you desire or until the patina matches the original ones in your car. Jim Patrick
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Topic author - Posts: 223
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
I was researching JUST that! I have seen the Bob Villa method and the permablue. The Perma will make things too dark. I will let you know on the screw sizes. I need to pull them out tonight or tomorrow. I am thinking oval headed #8 or #10. I will check the length. Guessing 5/8 or 3/4. But will pull a few of each that remain to make sure they were all same size. THANK YOUTRDxB2 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pmIf you can find all of what you need you might try to chemically age them. I probably have what you need but sizes?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwSxk5RWEGs
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This is a very common method - white vinegar is cleaning vinegar
https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-rust-metal/
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Topic author - Posts: 223
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Re: Wanted TO BUY: OLD STOCK/WELL PATINA'ed SCREWS for DOOR GARNISH AND INSTRUMENT PANEL
Mr. Bartow....LOL. Ummmmm. OK!lirogo27 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:08 amThank you!jiminbartow wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 12:09 pmHow about putting the threaded end of the new oval headed screws in a drill press and while running, sand off the plating, then bury the screws in a container of wet dirt until they achieve the amount of rust and age you desire or until the patina matches the original ones in your car. Jim Patrick