Steering Shaft 1926
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Steering Shaft 1926
Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Big difference!. T1 manual has a warning about mixing parts. This can be deadly.Kennyg26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 amHello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
The later(5-1) steering ratio shaft pins are located on a different radius to compensate for the different planetary gear diameters.
Get & read the T1 service manual.
You should get a complete correct 26-7 steering column. But be aware to check the innards to get the correct 5-1 package.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Thank you for the quick response! I will definitely check into that.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Besides the issues with the different gear ratio, the 26-27 column mounts at a different angle that the earlier column.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
John makes a very good point. The steering column in the 26-7 improved cars was lowered. This means that the flange to firewall mount is different, the hole in the firewall is lowered, and the steering bracket at the frame is set at a different angle. Making these components fit in an earlier car is fraught with difficulty.
I do believe the steering shafts can be switched between them, as long as the planetary gears are also switched. Then you have the problem of unfamiliar components getting to know one another in the steering box under the wheel.
Allan from down under.
I do believe the steering shafts can be switched between them, as long as the planetary gears are also switched. Then you have the problem of unfamiliar components getting to know one another in the steering box under the wheel.
Allan from down under.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Kennyg26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 amHello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Thanks for the insight. Did a bit of searching and found this.speedytinc wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:09 amBig difference!. T1 manual has a warning about mixing parts. This can be deadly.Kennyg26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 amHello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
The later(5-1) steering ratio shaft pins are located on a different radius to compensate for the different planetary gear diameters.
Get & read the T1 service manual.
You should get a complete correct 26-7 steering column. But be aware to check the innards to get the correct 5-1 package.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
The 5 to 1 has the # 5 on the top where the 3 pins go, Bob
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
Allan is right about the unfamiliar components. When I rebuilt my steering column, I replaced the shaft, pins, gears and gearcase. I had to break in the assembly at the bench to get the parts to play together. I put a small dab of fine valve lapping compound on the gears, pulled up a stool and spun the steering wheel for about a half hour. She spins like butter now.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
The Ford T service Manual has the needed information about the differences in the 26-27 T’s steering column and the earlier columns. It’s good to have one.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
I don't know if it is a certainty or not? However, generally, the earlier 4 to 1 steering shaft has three concave sides on the three pin top end part. Later 5 to 1 shafts have two concave sides and one flat side.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
What Wayne said. That flat side makes spotting a 5to1 shaft very easy, even when covered in grease. Dave
1925 mostly original coupe.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926
This is a 5:1 that was in my '26. Note the flat side.
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