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Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Kennyg26 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 am

Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by speedytinc » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:09 am

Kennyg26 wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 am
Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
Big difference!. T1 manual has a warning about mixing parts. This can be deadly.
The later(5-1) steering ratio shaft pins are located on a different radius to compensate for the different planetary gear diameters.

Get & read the T1 service manual.

You should get a complete correct 26-7 steering column. But be aware to check the innards to get the correct 5-1 package.


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Kennyg26 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:22 am

Thank you for the quick response! I will definitely check into that.

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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by jsaylor » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:15 pm

Besides the issues with the different gear ratio, the 26-27 column mounts at a different angle that the earlier column.


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Allan » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:00 pm

John makes a very good point. The steering column in the 26-7 improved cars was lowered. This means that the flange to firewall mount is different, the hole in the firewall is lowered, and the steering bracket at the frame is set at a different angle. Making these components fit in an earlier car is fraught with difficulty.
I do believe the steering shafts can be switched between them, as long as the planetary gears are also switched. Then you have the problem of unfamiliar components getting to know one another in the steering box under the wheel.

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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by TRDxB2 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:18 pm

Kennyg26 wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 am
Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
Last edited by TRDxB2 on Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:05 am

speedytinc wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:09 am
Kennyg26 wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:49 am
Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the '26?
Big difference!. T1 manual has a warning about mixing parts. This can be deadly.
The later(5-1) steering ratio shaft pins are located on a different radius to compensate for the different planetary gear diameters.

Get & read the T1 service manual.

You should get a complete correct 26-7 steering column. But be aware to check the innards to get the correct 5-1 package.
Thanks for the insight. Did a bit of searching and found this.
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by FATMAN » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:23 am

The 5 to 1 has the # 5 on the top where the 3 pins go, Bob

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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Mark Nunn » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:17 pm

Allan is right about the unfamiliar components. When I rebuilt my steering column, I replaced the shaft, pins, gears and gearcase. I had to break in the assembly at the bench to get the parts to play together. I put a small dab of fine valve lapping compound on the gears, pulled up a stool and spun the steering wheel for about a half hour. She spins like butter now.
Steering column.gif


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by John kuehn » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:13 pm

The Ford T service Manual has the needed information about the differences in the 26-27 T’s steering column and the earlier columns. It’s good to have one.


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:57 pm

I don't know if it is a certainty or not? However, generally, the earlier 4 to 1 steering shaft has three concave sides on the three pin top end part. Later 5 to 1 shafts have two concave sides and one flat side.


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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by D Stroud » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:00 am

What Wayne said. That flat side makes spotting a 5to1 shaft very easy, even when covered in grease. ;) Dave
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Re: Steering Shaft 1926

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:51 am

This is a 5:1 that was in my '26. Note the flat side.


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