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Identification Markings
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:44 pm
by Bryant
There seems to be a lot of identification markings all over the model T. What they all mean can be mysterious. Maybe someone will know? Post them if you’ve got them.
while wire brushing my frame down today I found this marking under the scale. I can see the letter M Then maybe a B or R and what might be a C or G. Any ideas? Its on the rear cross member drivers side right at the body mount hole. 1926 frame
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:51 pm
by Kevin Pharis
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:18 pm
by Bryant
Thanks that was very helpful

Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:38 pm
by Allan
Different steel mills roll their I D marks in the product they produce. It may be just one of those.
Allan from down under.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:57 pm
by Rich Eagle
I can't find previous discussions on this. These are the marks I am familiar with. I know A.O. Smith made frames early for Ford but others did later.
maybe someone else can remember.
Rich
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
by RajoRacer
There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:13 pm
by John kuehn
Some of the spring leaves on my 21 T has Carnegie randomly on the leaves. It’s faint but there.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:26 pm
by Rich Eagle
The spring markings are very interesting too. Here are some I found.
and this 1914 date:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 1321904484
I know we have discussed them before too, but where?
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:03 pm
by Bryant
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
Are the service bulletins on the MTFCA site somewhere?
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:04 pm
by Bryant
Rich, I like the little flag markings

Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:07 pm
by RajoRacer
I don't believe so Bryant - there's copied repro available at the vendors.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:00 pm
by DanTreace
Bryant wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:04 pm
Rich, I like the little flag markings
The pennant has MSC in the legend. That stands for Michigan Stamping Company, a supplier of later Ford frames.
The other major frame supplier was Parrish & Bingham, typical marking is P&B in a circle.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:04 pm
by DanTreace
Bryant wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:03 pm
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
Are the service bulletins on the MTFCA site somewhere?
Service Bulletins can be read on the Model T Ford International site, under Technical Library on the homepage ModelT.org
Here is the listings of neat info on the Ford from that library.
http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/mtdl_year_title_list.htm
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:13 pm
by Rich Eagle
Thanks Dan. It is good to get answers like that.
Rich
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:44 pm
by Bryant
Yes thank you Dan! I will be lost in that pile of info for days

here’s another hieroglyphic. Passenger side frame rail about the area of the carburetor. Possible assembly line guide?
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:49 pm
by Chuck Regan
1926 front bumper bracket.
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:38 am
by Mark Nunn
Bryant, Service bulletins are also on Cimorelli's website.
http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/service_b ... efault.htm
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:16 am
by Been Here Before
A trade make is a trademark....
Re: Identification Markings
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:35 pm
by Bryant
Then there’s this one which I would love to find out! Owner from long ago?