Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
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Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
Hi
I'm in the process of making my Touring 1926 made in Canada drivable again.
Looking at the front spring and the shackle made me skeptical. Do these shackles belong to this car? Furthermore, there are no holes drilled for an oiler on the 7-blade spring. The corners of the top two sheets are not broken.
What was original on the Ford back then?
The shackles on the rear axle are also fitted with grease nipples, but the spring ones are designed for oilers.
thank you for your help
I'm in the process of making my Touring 1926 made in Canada drivable again.
Looking at the front spring and the shackle made me skeptical. Do these shackles belong to this car? Furthermore, there are no holes drilled for an oiler on the 7-blade spring. The corners of the top two sheets are not broken.
What was original on the Ford back then?
The shackles on the rear axle are also fitted with grease nipples, but the spring ones are designed for oilers.
thank you for your help
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
That looks like a "figure eight" shackle that was used from the 1913 model year through about the end of the 1917 model year (U.S. Fords).
Instead of an Alemite pin type grease fitting, depending on the model year of the car there should be a brass twist oiler or steel snap oiler (which is what I have on my 1917 roadster).
Instead of an Alemite pin type grease fitting, depending on the model year of the car there should be a brass twist oiler or steel snap oiler (which is what I have on my 1917 roadster).
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
Here is the OEM Ford shackle design for your 1926. The rear shackles have longer shafts than the fronts. The shackle body and end plates are marked with the Ford script. The springs and perches should have holes for flip-top oilers. The shackles should be inserted so that the plates and nuts face towards the rear of the car.
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Mark Strange
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1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
If you're installing new bushings and want to use bronze, here are the sizes:
Front perch bushings(#3820) are ⁹⁄₁₆" ID and ¹¹⁄₁₆" OD, 1½" long.
Rear perch bushings (#3844) are ⁹⁄₁₆" ID and ¾" OD, 2" long.
Hand crank bushings (#3909) are OD 1", ID ¾", 2⅝" long,
Spindle arm bushings (#2714) are OD ¹¹⁄₁₆", and ID ⁹⁄₁₆", 1" long.
Parking brake cam bushings(#2559*) are 1⅛" long, OD ¹¹⁄₁₆", and ID ½".
*1909-1925.
Front perch bushings(#3820) are ⁹⁄₁₆" ID and ¹¹⁄₁₆" OD, 1½" long.
Rear perch bushings (#3844) are ⁹⁄₁₆" ID and ¾" OD, 2" long.
Hand crank bushings (#3909) are OD 1", ID ¾", 2⅝" long,
Spindle arm bushings (#2714) are OD ¹¹⁄₁₆", and ID ⁹⁄₁₆", 1" long.
Parking brake cam bushings(#2559*) are 1⅛" long, OD ¹¹⁄₁₆", and ID ½".
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
My original '27 has the same front shackles as Mark's photo.
All four shackles have oil cups.
All four shackles have oil cups.
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
Hi
Thanks for the feedback. I also thought the shackles like in Mark's photo would be correct.
Are bushings made of bronze better than the original bushings? I need to replace all the bushings and the shackles.
I have 7 leaf springs in the front and 8 leaf springs in the rear. Is the original for touring 1926 made in canada?
Can you get new oilers for the leaf springs? The space is very small.
Greeting
Thanks for the feedback. I also thought the shackles like in Mark's photo would be correct.
Are bushings made of bronze better than the original bushings? I need to replace all the bushings and the shackles.
I have 7 leaf springs in the front and 8 leaf springs in the rear. Is the original for touring 1926 made in canada?
Can you get new oilers for the leaf springs? The space is very small.
Greeting
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
Yes, you can get oilers for the springs and perches from the vendors. Read the notes regarding the number used. Can't hurt to order a few extra in case one gets damaged driving it in.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/3846.aspx
There are probably old threads regarding installing oilers without damaging them, do a Google search on "oiler installation mtfca".
Space is indeed tight. Make sure the oiler is in a position where you can open the lid before you drive it in. Once the oilers are installed, you can jack up the spring end to rotate the shackle and get more room to flip the oiler lid, like the picture.
The oilers are meant to be periodically (like often) be filled with oil. I choose to use a grease needle with a rubber tip to pump grease into my oilers until I see grease seeping out both ends of the shackle. Lasts longer, doesn't drip onto the ground, and seems to work fine.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/3846.aspx
There are probably old threads regarding installing oilers without damaging them, do a Google search on "oiler installation mtfca".
Space is indeed tight. Make sure the oiler is in a position where you can open the lid before you drive it in. Once the oilers are installed, you can jack up the spring end to rotate the shackle and get more room to flip the oiler lid, like the picture.
The oilers are meant to be periodically (like often) be filled with oil. I choose to use a grease needle with a rubber tip to pump grease into my oilers until I see grease seeping out both ends of the shackle. Lasts longer, doesn't drip onto the ground, and seems to work fine.
Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
Hello Mark Strange
Thanks for your information. Lubricating with the grease needle is a good idea. But what about the rubber tip? Can you take a picture of it?
greetings from Switzerland
Thanks for your information. Lubricating with the grease needle is a good idea. But what about the rubber tip? Can you take a picture of it?
greetings from Switzerland
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Re: Front spring and shackle on Touring 1926
For the rubber tip, I just bought some rubber vacuum caps the right size to fit the grease needle, then poked a hole in the tip so that the grease could come out.
https://www.amazon.com/BUSY-CORNER-Asso ... 3256&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/BUSY-CORNER-Asso ... 3256&psc=1
Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)