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Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:11 pm
by 1902Crest
Sorry no pictures today , but I will post some this week. Im going to see a 1913-14 race car that when I saw it last I was about 14, Im 64 now. The T was being restored and was almost done when it was sadly sold by its owner building a new home and no idea when he would finish it. He was a engineer at Rochester Products , carburetor division. I worked for him on the weekends and really liked this Ford. The car was sold around 1972 and I have only seen it once since then. The quality of the parts and workmanship was very high quality. The car is coming for sale now for the first time.
Here is what I remember about it. The chassis is underslung with the frame very low to the road. The motor was either a Rajo or Fronty 16 yalve head. The crank case was period and it has a aluminum deep sump pan. The crank shaft is a non T (maybe Ford B) balanced. The motor had full pressure lubrication with a outside oil pump if I remember correctly. It used a DU4 magneto. I dont remember anything about the carburetion.
The car had the stock transmission with a Warford behind it. I remember a large R cast into the case someplace. The wheels and tires were like new then and were Hause??? 5 of them I think with a single knockoff . The lamps , radiator and brass was either all new or perfect. I just dont remember. It had a fuel tank behind the 2 bucket seats that had beautiful diamond tufted leather cover. The rear brak drums were considerably over sized and not stock Ford. There were no fenders but some kind of brackets that fabric or leather covers stretched over. Im sure there was a large Jones speedometer. Id love to buy this car but not about to overpay for some dream I had 50 years ago. I know the car has been in very good storage the last 50 years. Im told the price is 20k. What are these parts worth if the car didnt come to fruition?? I will be posting pictures this coming week. Thanks Mike

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:49 pm
by Kevin Pharis
If it is in fact a dual overhead cam 16 valve Fronty (RAJO was 8 valve), the head could be worth double the asking price...

If it’s a rocker arm 16 valve Roof head, only a fraction of the asking price (depending on model A, B, or C)...

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:54 pm
by 1902Crest
Thanks Kevin. Ill get the pictures.

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:56 pm
by Mark Chaffin
RAJO did produce a 16 valve DOHC; however, it never went into full production. If it is a true RAJO, it would be worth more than the fronty DOHC.
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Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:35 am
by Kevin Pharis
Dual overhead yes... but 16 valve...? I was under the impression RAJO took over the Gallivan patterns, and so was an 8 valve dual overhead cam...

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:19 am
by Mark Chaffin
Yes. DOHC eight valve head. My error. It's been a long day!

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:51 am
by Erik Barrett
Here’s a DO Rajo. Cam train and covers are custom made. Wicked fast. It will daylight the left front wheel when you grab second gear at about 5500 rpm. We will be racing it at Santa Margarita next month.

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:27 pm
by Burger in Spokane
I think that head would really make a TT get
on down the road with a heavy load.

Re: Please help me out with some values of this car

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:20 pm
by Erik Barrett
I’m sure it would. I can run 50 in my dump truck as is. This thing is capable of more than twice the rpm it can reach. But that big vertical windshield would be holding it back and the part about swapping reliably for performance suggests a more low key approach.