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While working on my Steering, I discovered that my lower steering bracket (marked T932B and Ford) only has one bronze bushing in it. I managed to screw that bracket up in the process of trying to remove the bushing (best not to ask how) and found another one with the same markings and it also has only one bushing in it. All the sources I have say that is the correct bracket for my 22 but they also say that it should have 2 bronze bushings. I have seen mention on line to later production brackets with this number only having one Bronze bushing. Is this true, if so when did the change occur, and most importantly is there any benefit to having two bushings rather than one? Inquiring minds want to know…

When I did my 17 T it had one. But, my 27 had two. Both will work. You will need a new felt packing to seal the grease.

Reno Speedster wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:36 am

While working on my Steering, I discovered that my lower steering bracket (marked T932B and Ford) only has one bronze bushing in it. I managed to screw that bracket up in the process of trying to remove the bushing (best not to ask how) and found another one with the same markings and it also has only one bushing in it. All the sources I have say that is the correct bracket for my 22 but they also say that it should have 2 bronze bushings. I have seen mention on line to later production brackets with this number only having one Bronze bushing. Is this true, if so when did the change occur, and most importantly is there any benefit to having two bushings rather than one? Inquiring minds want to know…

That bracket with casting # T932B should have the 1" O.D. bushing, but in 1925 a change was made for the bushing to be 7/8" O.D. So sometimes you run across T932B's with the smaller bore for the bushing. Then for 1926-27 a new casting #T932C was made for the Improved Car and it used the smaller 7/8" O.D. bushing.

One can only guess Ford made the change to the smaller dia. bushing in anticipation of using it for the Improved Car, the 1925 has certain changes like that, the late '25 can even have the small trans brake drum with removable lugs like the '26-27.

On the one-piece bushing castings, the bore only goes short of the grease hole, so you have to collapse the bushing and drive it out the bottom, you can't put a bearing driver in from the top of the casting.

Lang's sell the following Steering Bracket Bushings

It's been a long time since I changed a bushing there but I seem to remember that on my '10 there was one long bushing that I replaced with two bushings. Am I just misremembering or was there yet another variation?

You remember right, Val

Would it be advantageous to bore a late-style bracket to accept two bushings, one above the grease hole and one below it?

According to the Record of Change cards for T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket the bracket was resigned and the upper bushing removed on 4-16-1921. After that the bracket used only one bushing at the lower end .

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess

I think Trent hit the bulls eye and based on his information, the one bushing bracket is right for my car. My bracket has a 1 in od bushing, I have removed the old one, and I have two new bushings on hand along with a new felt grease seal. I am going to clean, assemble, and paint the bracket today. I won’t reassemble the steering till the new pins and gear kit get here.

Thanks for all the input.

Reno Speedster wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:23 am

I think Trent hit the bulls eye and based on his information, the one bushing bracket is right for my car. My bracket has a 1 in od bushing, I have removed the old one, and I have two new bushings on hand along with a new felt grease seal. I am going to clean, assemble, and paint the bracket today. I won’t reassemble the steering till the new pins and gear kit get here.

Thanks for all the input.

Don't forget to ream that new bushing to the dia. of the steering shaft, after the bushing is pressed or driven in place in the steering bracket, it needs to have the shaft fit smooth with little slop, but also not stiff.


Various styles of steering frame brackets with part number and factory number that is the numerals marked on the castings.

Bushing installed and reamed, bracket painted and ready to install once the paint dries a bit. I am soaking the wood mounting block in molten paraffin before it goes back in. Preserves the wood and keeps it from soaking up water.

The T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket is only used on 1911 though 1925 cars (and 1926-27 bare chassis). It’s predecessor, T-932, is used on 1909 and 1910 cars only. The principle difference between the two steering gear brackets is the angle of the Steering Gear Shaft bore. The ‘09-10 bracket angle is 42 degrees 56 minutes while the 1911 and later brackets have a slightly shallower angle of 41 degrees 26 minutes. Consequently the two brackets are not interchangeable (without modification).

In addition to the slightly steeper angle of the T-932 bracket it can also be identified by the absence of the boss for the grease cup. This is clearly shown in the picture above. The boss was added in June 1910 and the T-932-B was introduced about 6 weeks later. So almost all steering gear brackets for 1909-1910 cars lack the grease cup boss.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess

Trent

Thanks for your details on the brackets. My photo just depicts the common types found, and I left the ‘17-‘25 dates on that bracket as the earlier ones have more unique markings as some are raised embossed in the castings, making ‘11-‘16 just exceptions for real authenticity, as you noted they all have that later angle.

For early ones, and details of these, this earlier post by Kim Dobbins pictures them.


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