1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
Nice! I don't know if Livingston made one exactly like that or not? But it is a very nice looking radiator and hood upgrade for the 1915 Ford T! It is funny how the Ford car was stepping into more modern styling at that point, but for some people, it wasn't going there fast enough! At that time, that after-market upgrade wasn't cheap.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
That looks to be an accessory radiator, rather than just a dress up shell on a Ford radiator. In Australia, Tarrant motors, Victorian Ford distributors, offered such an upgrade on the cars for which they built the bodies. This meant a custom made hood as part of the upgrade.
Allan from down under.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
Thanks Allan B, I always look forward to your postings! I was fairly sure it was Australian, wondered about Tarrant.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
Wayne, this one is not exactly like the Tarrant ones. I believe theirs still had a flat core. The top tank was rolled back from the base towards the neck, and the corners were rounded. I'll look for a photo in the morning. I had not registered that the car in the photo was RHD!
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
Now that I have had a close look, the car has a standard Ford factory body, rather than a Tarrant body. The hood has a glossier finish than the paintwork on the body, suggesting it is a different paint finish. No doubt it was likely fitted when the radiator was upgraded. The rest look like a standard 1915 model, complete with brass trim on the sidelights. I will go out on a limb here and suggest that it is an Australian car, based on the type of trees in the background.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
Here is an upmarket T from Australia with the same radiator. This one is a Davies & Fehon Deluxe from 1918.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
I really like the Australian upmarket model Ts. They have a great look about them. And I thought D & F was always Duncan and Fraser?
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
It's a Livingston radiator called the Bulldog. Made in new York City. Here's some info on it.
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Re: 1915 with accessory radiator shell-Old Photo
The Aussie photos prove at least a few of those radiators found their way out to Australia but in all my years around T's I have never spotted a surviving example. wonderful to see the original advertising and confirm that the Bulldog style was actually a Livingston product.