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Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:17 am**

Lee just sent me a note there was an error
I just got the new prices on the black round tube radiators, if you can still get one at the old price, act now
new price
1917-23 1019.00
1924-27 1019.00
round tube only
Bob

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:31 am**

You GOTTA be kidding! Is this the new price you posted? I sure hope so! But have no idea what old price was, always thought they were in the $800 range.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 am**

Brassworks website pricing does not indicate that.
https://thebrassworks.net/collections/1 ... 7-model-ts

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:44 am**

I just got the new price list and even sent Lee a e mail to confirm, this is the new prices old price was 1019.00
Bob

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:20 am**

So I am assuming that Berg's is now kaput? As was "rumored" back last February? And this is Brassworks, correct? Sorry for so many questions, but inquiring minds need to know!

Thanks

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:56 am**

anyone still too snooty to run a waterpump, now?

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:59 am**

Water pumps destroy our wetlands while driving AGW!

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:02 am**

Is this kind price increase across the board? Is it on flat tube and round tube, or round tube only?

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:07 am**

Fuel and dog food prices have roughly doubled in recent months... why not radiators? I hope any actual increases do not destroy demand.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:08 am**

Only on the round tube for black era only brass did not jump that much, flat tubes small price increase

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:38 pm**

I believe I paid $600.00 for a high radiator for my 1926 coupe from brassworks in 2010. Jim Patrick

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:35 pm**

On the Jan 15 post re extreme radiators, I expressed cynicism around dropping the reinforcement bar in the cores and subsequent price increases. With Berg's now no longer available we are left with a monopoly supplier, and a price rise well in in excess of 300% ??? Maybe my cynicism was justified.

Allan from down under.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:09 pm**

Odd how a radiator for my modern can be had on ebay for about 120 bucks,Aluminum. Why isn't someone sending a design to someone and try having the 1's for drivers cars made out of aluminum?
I know there would be no trophys for them but hey if it keeps the T cool,and the wallet from blowing away in the wind why not try?

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:57 pm**

Probably labor costs as much as materials. Younger workers have a different way of looking at work these days. And the flood or aliens coming over now will see that they can work the system. It’s getting to be business’s are the ones that are put in position of needing workers at any cost.
Workers act like it’s a real privilege for the business’s to look for and to come up with as much money and benefits for the candidates.

But a $3000.00 + markup in prices?? Something doesn’t sound right.

Somebody could make an aluminum radiator really close for the 17-27 cars. It’s all in wanting to do it. And if the perfectionist’s don’t like it don’t drive your T or spend $4000.00 for a Brassworks.

A nice aluminum flat tube style surely could be made for less than $1000.00. You would think.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:27 pm**

MFRs want high volume and a range of applications. The T is too narrow a market, and no tooling exists for a plastic/aluminum T radiator, unless there is a supplier making T bucket type radiators that will fit a stock T.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:28 pm**

How would anyone even know if it's aluminum once it's painted black anyway? So why would anyone object?

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:41 pm**

How successful are recored radiators.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:45 pm**

Guys, you have to remember radiators have been copper and brass since the 1890s. Aluminum and plastic represent the short-term throwaway economics of nearly every manufactured item the past 50 years. I really can't see a how a plastic/aluminum radiator would be viable for a T in the long run. Not a few 100 year old radiators are still functioning and remain repairable. I doubt if the small market for such an abortion (excuse me) would come in any cheaper than a reasonable reproduction. If you have to go full 21st century, forget your Model T, donate it to a museum and buy a Tesla for heaven's sakes !

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:47 pm**

Art M wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:41 pm
How successful are recored radiators.

Of course much depends on the abilities of a given radiator repairman, but the short answer is, "VERY".

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:58 pm**

Once the tooling is made an aluminum 17-27 flat tube that would be pretty correct wouldnt be that hard to make. ITS ALL IN THE WANTING TO. Tooling set up would be fairly easy for a T radiator. It ain’t rocket science. Bucket T radiators are pretty cheap and a basic T original style could be made just as easy and for the same price. T bucket radiators aren’t all that popular and they are still fairly cheap. So why not an original style T.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:39 pm**

Contrary to the title of this thread, perhaps it would be better to wait until the political and economical situation has changed to one more favorable to business and commerce and, hopefully, people will get back to work when the government stops paying everyone more not to work than they make working. Perhaps by then, we can start drilling again so we can go back to being energy independent so that inflation will decrease and everything is not so expensive. Probably a pipe dream but it is nice to imagine the way things used to be. Jim Patrick

PS. If everyone refuses to pay their outlandish price, perhaps they will HAVE to lower the price to a more affordable amount or go out of business. Anyone who does need a radiator can get their old radiator completely rebuilt for much less.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:45 pm**

This is crazy. That's almost as much as I paid for my first car in general.

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:53 pm**

I'll just read some books and build my own.
That's obviously ludicrous!

Posted: **Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:27 pm**

When I got into this hobby as a kid before I could even get a driver's license, there were at least a dozen different people across this country making brass radiators for Ts in their garage shops and selling them regionally. They used simple jigs, drill presses and punches, cutting tools, etc to make them. They had a local foundry cast the upper and lower necks, or bought those pieces from some other garage shop that was having them made.
I personally knew a couple of those people. Fred Siverson's radiators are still prized by people old enough to have known of him.
After FoMoCo began cracking down on name "infringement", most of those shops began shutting down. When Fred stopped making them himself, he sold the jigs and patterns to someone else that continued for awhile, and that person passed them on to someone else. One of those "someone elses" is an often poster on this forum! (I will let him reveal himself if he wants to?)

When black era radiators went up to about $800? I started thinking I might consider making one myself if I needed one. But, so far, I have been lucky enough to find good old radiators that work fine.

I suspect, that IF someone wanted to set up a garage shop to make radiators today? One of the first and biggest problems would be finding a reliable source for the various types and sizes of brass sheet and tubing that are needed.

Don't throw away originals unless they are REALLY trashed! I have often thought a couple (close enough matching!) could be taken apart and reassembled into an as good as new radiator that would last one's lifetime!

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:59 am**

If you could get a core with loose fins clean enough, you could tin the whole core. It might be a easier to set up to build new cores than whole radiators. Any real time, real world business in this country today is a sitting duck for a wide assortment of parasites and tyrants, both gross and petty.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:59 am**

I don't scrap Model T and other early car parts.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:15 am**

Well my purchase history doesn't go back far enough to find the link on ebay but the aluminum radiator i installed in my 91 F150 is all aluminum. NO plastic at all.appears to be tig welded thru and thru. and it was like 140 bucks?

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:22 am**

jiminbartow wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:39 pm

Probably a pipe dream but it is nice to imagine the way things used to be. Jim Patrick

Sadly Jim, I think it is a pipedream. Seems we've gone past the point of going back to the good ol' days of a good work ethic,

solid family values, and RESPECT in many fashions. I could go on and on but this isn't the proper forum for that.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:19 am**

I'm thinking that this is a good time for someone who has the suppliers, patterns, facility, talent, bankroll, and is willing to quit their regular job and give up their family income stream to become a competitor to Brass Works. Setting up is simple: build or rent the facility, make the workspace OSHA compliant, ensure any effluent or solder, copper or brass scraps are handled in an EPA approved fashion, business licenses are secured (and there's lots more) it is a piece of cake. If the price is actually what Bob has stated, you cannot help but get rich in the process. Any takers?

And be sure there is a dedicated person to handle phone calls and emails. They will be busy and will have no time to actually produce product, so at best if it is just a two man operation, only 50% of the labor will be creating an income stream, while the other is creating expense before the first product goes out the door.

I don't know if the new price is fair or equitable. It doesn't matter because it is none of my damn business and I'm never going to be privy to costs the business incurs or the expected profit the owner believes he needs to make it worthwhile. My job is to buy, or not. High prices are a problem. A problem is an opportunity to come up with something better. Complaining may feel good in the short run, but never solved a problem...ever.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:16 pm**

Years ago when the price for a new one was to much for me .
I bought a core the same size as the original with three rows of flat tube,s standing in an angle .
So the air go's [ swinging ] through the tube's
The top and bottem tank I made them by my self .
That was much cheaper , but it took some time .

Toon

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:29 pm**

Anthonie

that's wonderful work. Thank you for sharing as an inspiration to others

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm**

Before spending big bucks on a new radiator I would look for a shop that does recores, and if I found one I would find an original with decent tanks and have them recore it. In fact, that's what I did with my 1915. Saved a few hundred. Now that we've lost Berg's, I guess I'll do the same for a black era radiator if I need one.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:54 pm**

I've shared this before, but since it is a non-answer guess it doesn't get picked up.

When I first got into this and my first T cost me three years worth of cookie jar money and from there consumed every spare quarter...

...I had the radiator go bad in a very bad way and was ready to park the car for a while while the cookie jar filled since the local T guy, with mountains of T parts on his farm, told me he wouldn't sell me one of his 100's of radiators as it would be dis-heartening for a young-un like me to go through all the work and then have a better than average chance for a leak somewhere down the road sooner rather than later!

I chatted up the local radiator shop guy and he said to bring it in, he'd look it over, see what he could do.

A few days later asked me to stop by. There it was all painted up nice and pretty and a brand new core in it! But...it was a flat tube core...with the corrugated fins...with my original tanks all seam cleaned and re-soldered from the inside! That was 40 years ago...it is still on that car!

He had sat there with the length / width/ and height and leafed through every core catalog he had and found something (I think Clark) forklift radiator core. Thickness was just a wee bit strong on upper and lower flange, height was perfect, width was close enough---so he clipped the thickness to match, laid in the top tank and bottom tank, and then made a girdle of sorts for the spreader bar and soldered it in place across the rad mounting flange inside. Joked that there was some 4-5 times more cooling power than previous. Price in 1981? $150 bucks all in!

Sure it doesn't pass the 3 foot rule as being 'original' style, but it got me by, looked reasonable enough, and cooled fantastic for a heavy Fordor.

Someone might want to do a search for a core at the dimensions needed, both high and low...and see what is out there now in a 'box'. It may not be all that shameful to consider. Mine never bothered me, even after I could afford one of Jery's, and had started buying from Jery for my other cars...no desire to go back and 'fix' what was not a problem!

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:32 pm**

The company that makes the T bucket radiators could make a stock T radiator for the high radiator T’s the same price or really close to it. They already have the people who build them, the office folks to take the calls , the shop and the aluminum to make them. But did I mention that already? It would increase their sales until the Brassworks units price get more reasonable. But there will always be folks who moan and groan it can’t be done. You don’t have to have an engineering degree to figure that out. Maybe it’s too easy but what do I know.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:09 pm**

All they have to do is put the inlet and outlet in the correct place. I am surprised Speedway Motors has not made one.

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:58 pm**

Sure put an $4000+ radiator on a car worth in the 7-9k range when restored...NOT!

Posted: **Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:51 pm**

About 7 years ago a friend that was building a T from any parts he could find. He ended up with a 23/25 express truck on a T frame. This biggest problem he had was finding a good used radiator. Like many he didn’t have the money to buy a $600 dollar radiator. The radiators he bought were cheap & not very efficient in cooling. He went on eBay and found an aluminum radiator that was new it had a neck fill like a regular T. The out flow fitting was located on the bottom left as usual for a T but the intake fitting was on the far right. What he could do was weld aluminum. He found and aluminum pipe at the scrap yard cut it the correct length & angle, cut a hole in the middle of the top tank and welded the pipe on. Then remove the fitting on the upper far right and welded an aluminum plate over it. This radiator cooled extremely well, it was a three row type with orifices for transmission cooling which came with plastic plugs. It’s still running well. At first he didn’t paint the front fins but later did and when that was done if you didn’t open the hood you really couldn’t tell. I just looked on eBay and found a similar one though it doesn’t have the center fill most everything else it the same as the one he bought. I believe he paid a little more that $100 for it with free shipping. The price for the one I just found was under $140 with free shipping. You’d have to turn and aluminum fill spout and thread it for a cap along with moving an covering the other item previously mention but I believe it probably wouldn’t cost more than a couple hundred dollars to do if you sourced the work out. I’m not sure if you can solder a regular spout on to aluminum but if you can it might be easier than turning a spout out of aluminum. It’d be much cheaper if you or a friend could do it. Below is a picture of the front of the aluminum radiator. I’ll see if I can find the item number. This one is sold by a company in CA.
Item number 185207930326.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185207930326?m ... &media=SMS

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:20 am**

I just looked all through the website and I see modest price increases. The highest prices are on those V’ed speedster radiators which look expensive. Any thing out of the ordinary costs more. I have six of their radiators on T’s and A’s and they are all excellent and half are over ten years old with no issues. I have no coolant issues season to season in Wisconsin. I used to pay $1.29 for eggs a year ago, now $3.99. Go figure.

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:24 am**

Joe Reid wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:20 am
I just looked all through the website and I see modest price increases. The highest prices are on those V’ed speedster radiators which look expensive. Any thing out of the ordinary costs more. I have six of their radiators on T’s and A’s and they are all excellent and half are over ten years old with no issues. I have no coolant issues season to season in Wisconsin. I used to pay $1.29 for eggs a year ago, now $3.99. Go figure.

If you're referring to Brassworks website I checked it also. My guess is they haven't updated it yet. Probly afraid to even publish such a huge price price.

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:25 am**

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm
Before spending big bucks on a new radiator I would look for a shop that does recores, and if I found one I would find an original with decent tanks and have them recore it. In fact, that's what I did with my 1915. Saved a few hundred. Now that we've lost Berg's, I guess I'll do the same for a black era radiator if I need one.

Steve, mind me asking, where do you find the core ...and who is manufacturing those?

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:48 am**

Brent : May years ago Daniel Radiator made cores for Model T and A, they made a new A radiator also. Problem was with T there were some many different makers of radiators you had to make the upper and lower headers to fit your tanks. I got an ex friend to get me a core. ( you had to be a radiator repair shop to buy from them). After he messed with it he told to come and get it and NEVER bring him another one ( that is why he is ex friend). He gave the core and work just to get it out of his shop.
I would think by time he had charged me the cost would have been as much as a new Brassworks at the time.
Daniel became GoDan and I am sure they stopped making cores a long time ago. I think GoDan has changed hands by now.
Just posting for info and maybe a place to start. Dan

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:48 am**

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:48 am
Brent : May years ago Daniel Radiator made cores for Model T and A, they made a new A radiator also. Problem was with T there were some many different makers of radiators you had to make the upper and lower headers to fit your tanks. I got an ex friend to get me a core. ( you had to be a radiator repair shop to buy from them). After he messed with it he told to come and get it and NEVER bring him another one ( that is why he is ex friend). He gave the core and work just to get it out of his shop.
I would think by time he had charged me the cost would have been as much as a new Brassworks at the time.
Daniel became GoDan and I am sure they stopped making cores a long time ago. I think GoDan has changed hands by now.
Just posting for info and maybe a place to start. Dan

Yeah Dan, that is the same thing I have encountered. I cannot source cores for A's -or T's outside of Lee.

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:24 pm**

BRENT in 10-uh-C wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:48 am

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:48 am
Brent : May years ago Daniel Radiator made cores for Model T and A, they made a new A radiator also. Problem was with T there were some many different makers of radiators you had to make the upper and lower headers to fit your tanks. I got an ex friend to get me a core. ( you had to be a radiator repair shop to buy from them). After he messed with it he told to come and get it and NEVER bring him another one ( that is why he is ex friend). He gave the core and work just to get it out of his shop.
I would think by time he had charged me the cost would have been as much as a new Brassworks at the time.
Daniel became GoDan and I am sure they stopped making cores a long time ago. I think GoDan has changed hands by now.
Just posting for info and maybe a place to start. Dan
Yeah Dan, that is the same thing I have encountered. I cannot source cores for A's -or T's outside of Lee.

I would be very surprised if he's making them himself. Where did Berg buy his?

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:01 pm**

...where do you find the core ...and who is manufacturing those?

I have no idea. Tom Nolte bought the core when he did my radiator. Now he's no longer with us, so we can't ask him. Last year I phoned B & R Radiator in Wichita where the local T guys get their radiator work done, and asked if they do recores. At that time the answer was yes. I don't know about now.

Where did Berg buy his?

I believe it was difficulty in getting parts that shut him down. Perhaps the parts were cores.

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:11 pm**

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:24 pm

I would be very surprised if he's making them himself. Where did Berg buy his?

Jerry, I think Lee does have the machines to do them in-house. He may be outsourcing them, and having them made to his spec but he likely has a proprietary no-compete clause with the manufacturer which puts us all at ground zero again.

Gery B. lost his supplier which helped him make the decision to go help his wife hang wallpaper because it was more profitable.

Since Bob updated (-corrected!) the prices above in the first post, I really do not see them as being out of line pricewise at $1,100.00.

Posted: **Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:32 pm**

BRENT in 10-uh-C wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:11 pm

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:24 pm

I would be very surprised if he's making them himself. Where did Berg buy his?
Jerry, I think Lee does have the machines to do them in-house. He may be outsourcing them, and having them made to his spec but he likely has a proprietary no-compete clause with the manufacturer which puts us all at ground zero again.

Gery B. lost his supplier which helped him make the decision to go help his wife hang wallpaper because it was more profitable.

Since Bob updated (-corrected!) the prices above in the first post, I really do not see them as being out of line pricewise at $1,100.00.

Yes, I just saw the "new, new price"!

I only hope not too many guys that were otherwise desperate for an affordable radiator jumped off any bridges over the error!

Having an original round tube on my Fordor which does reasonably well even after having it "tanked and repaired" coupla years ago, I opted for the advice to grab 'em while ya can at the old price and ordered one from Lang's via internet over the weekend. Saving coupla hundred bucks. It can sit in storeage til the time comes, if it ever does to use it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:11 pm**

Allan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:35 pm
On the Jan 15 post re extreme radiators, I expressed cynicism around dropping the reinforcement bar in the cores and subsequent price increases. With Berg's now no longer available we are left with a monopoly supplier, and a price rise well in in excess of 300% ??? Maybe my cynicism was justified.

Allan from down under.

Allan from down under,
The extreme radiator is not intended for the purist. It was requested by people who want more cooling.
The reinforcement bar cannot be used because of the process to index the fins prohibits it.
There is no monopoly on radiators, there are fewer shops around and they call us for help all the time.
Our pricing update had an error and we did not catch. I regret the drama it caused.

Posted: **Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:19 pm**

Scott_Conger wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:19 am
I'm thinking that this is a good time for someone who has the suppliers, patterns, facility, talent, bankroll, and is willing to quit their regular job and give up their family income stream to become a competitor to Brass Works. Setting up is simple: build or rent the facility, make the workspace OSHA compliant, ensure any effluent or solder, copper or brass scraps are handled in an EPA approved fashion, business licenses are secured (and there's lots more) it is a piece of cake. If the price is actually what Bob has stated, you cannot help but get rich in the process. Any takers?

And be sure there is a dedicated person to handle phone calls and emails. They will be busy and will have no time to actually produce product, so at best if it is just a two man operation, only 50% of the labor will be creating an income stream, while the other is creating expense before the first product goes out the door.

I don't know if the new price is fair or equitable. It doesn't matter because it is none of my damn business and I'm never going to be privy to costs the business incurs or the expected profit the owner believes he needs to make it worthwhile. My job is to buy, or not. High prices are a problem. A problem is an opportunity to come up with something better. Complaining may feel good in the short run, but never solved a problem...ever.

Scott - Its easier than that. You guys get together and just buy the brassworks.

Posted: **Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:24 pm**

thanks Lee

much prefer to just buy your product!

my dad built/sold 3 different businesses...I know the troubles and rewards all too well as a spectator. I finally closed my clock shop to go into industry years ago, trading one set of trouble/rewards for another set

I'm perfectly content to just dabble at my own pace now

I'm not at the end of the earth, but can see it from here and that suits me just fine!

Posted: **Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:34 pm**

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BRENT in 10-uh-C wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:11 pm

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:24 pm

I would be very surprised if he's making them himself. Where did Berg buy his?
Jerry, I think Lee does have the machines to do them in-house. He may be outsourcing them, and having them made to his spec but he likely has a proprietary no-compete clause with the manufacturer which puts us all at ground zero again.

Gery B. lost his supplier which helped him make the decision to go help his wife hang wallpaper because it was more profitable.

Since Bob updated (-corrected!) the prices above in the first post, I really do not see them as being out of line pricewise at $1,100.00.

I think I might want to hang wallpaper? Here are 829 images of us making radiators https://www.instagram.com/brassworks_radiators/?hl=en

Posted: **Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:37 pm**

the_brassworks wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:11 pm

Allan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:35 pm
On the Jan 15 post re extreme radiators, I expressed cynicism around dropping the reinforcement bar in the cores and subsequent price increases. With Berg's now no longer available we are left with a monopoly supplier, and a price rise well in in excess of 300% ??? Maybe my cynicism was justified.

Allan from down under.
Allan from down under,
The extreme radiator is not intended for the purist. It was requested by people who want more cooling.
The reinforcement bar cannot be used because of the process to index the fins prohibits it.
There is no monopoly on radiators, there are fewer shops around and they call us for help all the time.
Our pricing update had an error and we did not catch. I regret the drama it caused.

Lee,

Thank you for your comments and for the extreme radiator explanation. Both are very appreciated!

Posted: **Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:49 am**

I think I might want to hang wallpaper? Here are 829 images of us making radiators https://www.instagram.com/brassworks_radiators/?hl=en
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Lee.... Oh no no no...nein nein nein!!

You DO NOT wanna start hanging wallpaper! Trust me, it really tested the mettle of my wife and my marriage!!

Posted: **Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:44 am**

Thanks to Brassworks for posting. I received the Brassworks radiator I ordered from Lang's for my '26 last October, and I'm happy to own it. Excellent workmanship (and packaging). jb

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:36 pm**

I went to breakfast this morning and then went to the tire store.
Fellow said,something leaking out of my truck, Yep, the d*#(*$$ plastic tanked radiator has a big crack in the tank.
So I ordered this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/175202447918
I put 1 made like this in my f150 and it hasn't had any issues,
It would be nice if they made them for a T.
The price would be reasonable and cooling would be exceptional if not over kill.

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Re: If you need a radiator do not panic

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not panic

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not wait

Re: If you need a radiator do not panic

Re: If you need a radiator do not panic