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Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Fozz71 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:28 pm

Gents,
Please take a peek at my 19015 bulb horn set-up. I bought the new brass bracket for the top of the horn but am confused how it all fits? Something is either missing or wrong here. AS far as I read, for '15-'16 Ford moved the reed up into the bulb so it is a unique assembly by itself.

Can anyone shed light on where my shiny brass bracket attaches and what is missing here?

Thanks,
Jim
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by KWTownsend » Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm

The bracket goes on the bulb end. The reed goes at the bulb end.
The threads on original horn tubing is different from the threads on modern replacement parts, so you can't mix 'n' match.
DO NOT use the shiny horn bracket. The flat type is correct and much more sturdy and durable.

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Mark Gregush » Thu May 02, 2019 9:17 pm

Isn't the reed facing the wrong way? I would think blowing air that way would force it shut, from the other direction air going thru would vibrate it.
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Fozz71 » Thu May 02, 2019 10:32 pm

It may be, this is how I got the horn. It seems like I am missing the long brass tube in which the reed goes inside.

Does anyone have spare horn pieces they'd be willing to sell?

Thanks,
JIm

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Bob McDaniel » Thu May 02, 2019 10:51 pm

The reed is the right direction but I think it needs the long brass tube around it. My 13 has the reed at the bulb like that but it may be different on a 15.
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Jim, Sr. » Thu May 02, 2019 11:11 pm

Take a look at this original 1915 set-up. The reed is inside the long brass upper fitting. The horn bulb slips onto the fitting. The reed is tapered to wedge into the bracket, and the "duck bill" goes toward the bulb. It is hard to tell in your photo, but that fitting that covers the reed may be stuck into your horn bulb. Pull it out of the bulb and see if it is threaded on one end so it will screw onto the tube by the bracket, enclosing the reed. Re-arrange yours to look like mine. You did not need that shiny bracket, it's wrong for 1915.
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Corey Walker » Fri May 03, 2019 8:43 am

Here are a couple more pictures.
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Rich Bingham » Fri May 03, 2019 9:54 am

Perhaps it doesn't matter; no doubt there are bulb horns aplenty that function well with the reed either at the bulb or at the horn, but it seems to me more logical to have the reed at the bulb where it will react without having to compress a column of air in the length of tubing. Does anyone know for sure what the factory setup was ? Did it vary with the make of horn supplied ?
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by R.V.Anderson » Fri May 03, 2019 8:26 pm

No; it was uniform. The setup changed (reed moved from horn end to bulb end) when the tubing was shortened and moved inside the car body to mount on the dummy door panel. The horn tubing parts that I make and sell all have the correct early style Ford thread which is 41/64 x 27. Very near the end of bulb horn production Ford changed to the industry standard 5/8 x 28. This is why you can have a bunch of original Ford horn tubing parts and not all of them will thread together easily.


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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Fozz71 » Fri May 03, 2019 8:35 pm

I’m still struggling here to figure out what fits wear. The reed does not come out of the hose end.

Can someone take a look at my set up and see what the heck I’m missing? I can’t mentally figure this out
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Corey Walker » Fri May 03, 2019 9:02 pm

Here are a few more pictures. This was a complete 1915 Rubes horn set up. I used it on my 14 with a 14 horn and eliminated the elbow but the rest is the same. The reed screws into the tubing coming out of the bracket.
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Fozz71 » Fri May 03, 2019 9:08 pm

SUCCESS! The boob before me must have screwed the reed into the wrong end of the hose, I moved the reed up to the bulb and Voila! Success!

Thanks for all your help guys!

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by KWTownsend » Sat May 04, 2019 12:10 pm

Jim-
There is a lot of mis-information out there. Glad you got it right.
Please put up some pics of your set up so you, too, can help the next guy!

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Moeheart » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:20 pm

Hi I found your post by doing rubes horn part. I see from you post you did not use the 90 degree elbow in your set up.I am in need of the elbow for my 1915 roadster restoration project. If you still have it and willing to sell it please message me back or call me thanks Nick H. 772-532-3274

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:41 pm

The bulb horn is correct, but if you want to be heard add a mechanical horn as so many people did in the T era. :D
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by TWrenn » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Re Steve's comment, that's why in late '15, technically early '16, Ford went to the Magneto horn anyway.

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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:08 pm

...that's why in late '15, technically early '16, Ford went to the Magneto horn anyway.

Yes, and it's not much better than the bulb horn. I think a properly operating mechanical horn is louder than both of them together. :)
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Re: Am I missing something on 1915 horn?

Post by KWTownsend » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:36 pm

Nick-
Check with Bob Bergstadt
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