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Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:35 pm
by Flivver
How I install a tire with NO TIRE LEVERS. No risk of scratching the paint on the wheels. https://youtu.be/LIaWMUB3FPk
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Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:06 pm
by Allan
That is really clever. New tyres do make a difference. They are softer then, and heat will make them softer. I cannot believe how squeaky clean and dust free that woodworking shop is!!!!

If you don't want to bother, most newer tyre mounting machines will take 21" rims with ease. My fitter puts a little pad of electrical tape on the three holding fingers before he puts my rims on the machine. No contact with the rim. The rotating arm rolls on bead on, then he stuffs the tube in . The neat trick is the way the machine can be adjusted so that the mounting arm/roller sits an 1/8" above the second bead an d it too does not contact the rim. The whole deal takes a couple of minutes. No paint chips, no cursing, no bead damage, no sweat. He charges me $5 per wheel.

Your choice. Allan from down under.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:00 am
by Flivver
Great that you found a tire technician that takes care, Allen. Keep that guy!
Allan wrote:
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:06 pm
My fitter puts a little pad of electrical tape on the three holding fingers before he puts my rims on the machine. No contact with the rim.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:56 am
by Dave Young
I use this same method on my T and Model A wire wheels. Only difference is I first bolt the wheel to the spare tire holder on the back of the car. Man, it’s SO easy it’s silly.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:13 am
by Flivver
Great idea using the spare tire mount as a holder! I will try that. Thanks!
Dave Young wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:56 am
I use this same method on my T and Model A wire wheels. Only difference is I first bolt the wheel to the spare tire holder on the back of the car. Man, it’s SO easy it’s silly.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:11 pm
by Steve Jelf
It's such a pleasure to see a how-to video that's well-produced. No bouncing hand-held camera, no inaudible dialogue mumbled off-mike, clear, well-lit shots that show what you need to see — very nice.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:20 pm
by RajoRacer
When I attempted that procedure on clincher rims, it took me hours to get the bag remnants out from between the tire & rim ! Now I do it this way.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:33 pm
by AndyClary
I use a HarborFreight tire machine to hold the wire wheels and accessory wire wheels. I haven’t tried the bag. The drop center T and A wires are very easy so I don’t see any need for tricks. Clinchers can be a problem in cold weather.

Andy

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:28 pm
by speedytinc
I dont see this trick as useful for clincher wheels. Different animal completely.
Clinchers have to be stretched. Drop centers have to be positioned in the drop.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:35 pm
by JohnM
Steven, I enjoy your videos. Your driving videos are well done. Good editing and sound quality, I can actually hear the car not just wind noise.

Your tips are excellent! If I may make a suggestion, at the point where it's time to push the beads on the wheel, I lay mine on a piece of cardboard on the floor. Stand kind of bowleged on the tire with your feet at 4 and 8 o'clock. Rock your weight from one foot to the other and work your way to 12 noon being careful not to pinch the tube between the bead and rim. This works well without the use of a trash bag, but I will try the bag next time.

Thanks, John

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:07 pm
by Flivver
Thanks Steve.
Steve Jelf wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:11 pm
It's such a pleasure to see a how-to video that's well-produced — very nice.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:10 pm
by Flivver
Never thought to use feet - will try that. My arms get pretty tired from the 'CPR' method...Thanks John.
JohnM wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:35 pm
Stand kind of bowleged on the tire with your feet at 4 and 8 o'clock. Rock your weight from one foot to the other and work your way to 12 noon being careful not to pinch the tube between the bead and rim.

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:09 am
by tdump
I used the bag trick on a T tire after watching vids on the internet.Takes a while to pick the plastic out but it works

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:47 am
by TWrenn
speedytinc wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:28 pm
I dont see this trick as useful for clincher wheels. Different animal completely.
Clinchers have to be stretched. Drop centers have to be positioned in the drop.
Agree. I tried it and it only worked barely half way around. Then the stretching issue won.
I took 'em to my local tire dealer that I always mention doing and the kid there has gotten so good, he barely leaves a mark.
Last set of 4 went on my red wire wheels on the Torpedo and not a scratch on one of 'em. For $20 a pop, it aint worth it for me to try em. For whatever reason, taking 'em off is a whoooole lot easier than puttin' em on!! :lol:

Re: Tire Install with the Garbage Bag Trick

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:17 am
by Steve Jelf
The first time I mounted new clinchers it was a half-hour-per-tire struggle. Since I bought some 24" irons and have had the experience of using them a few times, the job is much easier. In fact, when I mounted a couple of new clinchers last week I forgot to powder the second one and still had it on the rim in well under five minutes. Some practice with the right equipment has turned a frustrating ordeal into no big deal.