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1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:38 pm
by old_charley
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:42 pm
by Tourabout
Uhhhh, ok...
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:44 pm
by John kuehn
WOW!
At least Hemings has a disclaimer at the end of the looooog add! I wouldn’t have thought Hemings would let that get by!
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:44 pm
by Rich Eagle
It's probably one of the nicer ones of that body style. I see it is a hybrid, updated with many of the improved, later parts including starter and generator. It would be a bargain at half the price.
It could be a fun car.
Rich
This similar one lived in Montana.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:49 pm
by John kuehn
I wonder what’s on the title. To each his own I guess. It probably runs good.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:34 pm
by TWrenn
Might be a price misprint! I think they mean they would PAY someone to take it off their hands for $8900!!

Talk about a Frankenstein T!!

This car is just scary! What in the he!! kind of coach lamps are those anyway?
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:45 pm
by Scott_Conger
Someone had a lot of fun putting that together, I'm sure, and the present owner has a pretty good idea of what it is and what it isn't (not completely, but some idea, based on documentation they provided)
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:19 pm
by TXGOAT2
Don't let this one get away!
It's PERFECT for a re-make of "My Mother, The Car".
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:28 pm
by ModelT46
T he body and top is from two unit buggy. The body and top is worth perhaps $1500, The chasis perhaps $ 1500,. so this T is probably worth about $3000.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:33 pm
by Steve Jelf
The best part is the lengthy bloviation by a salesman who has looked up a few Model T facts and stirred them into his baloney pie.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:22 pm
by John kuehn
Steve you’ve hit the nail on the head. The presentation information is impressive and over the top. I’m still wondering how they arrived that it’s an 09 since it has a generator engine that looks to be in the early 20’s.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:48 pm
by Scott_Conger
Someone(s) not looking at the pictures
one of the pictures is a descriptive document describing the whole mess as being on "a 1920's chassis"
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:55 pm
by John kuehn
Must not be the salesman.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:11 pm
by ThreePedalTapDancer
Frankenstein or not, and certainly not the belle of the ball, but I appreciate that it still exists. If it could only talk and tell us where it’s been and what it’s seen. I’d send the solid tires to Steve Jeff to improve his mileage on the gravel roads on his next trip.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:20 pm
by NorthSouth
Here is a picture of the little “gem”.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:03 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
I don't know WHAT that thing should be called? But it certainly is NOT a 1909 anything! A clown car, circus wagon, South China carriage?
There might be an interesting story behind it? (It looks like something I saw mounted on a wrecking yard sign post years ago?)
I wonder if it was ever actually run that way?
The one interesting thing I noticed, was that the radiator shell actually looks decent? The way the hood lacing is put in? It might actually be an original era accessory for a model T!
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:30 pm
by ThreePedalTapDancer
It is obviously a horse drawn carriage body similar to this one, grafted onto a T frame. Someone made something with what they had on hand.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:17 pm
by John kuehn
One more thing and I’ll shut up. It would actually bring more money if it was sold as an early 20’s running chassis. The buggy coach or what ever that was added as a body.could be sold separately for what it is.
That’s the realistic thing that could be done and it would sell. But it appears the salesman just doesn’t get it.
It eventually will sell but good grief present it for what it really is!

Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:25 pm
by frontyboy
YET ANOTHER POS!!!!!! HOCKED BY A DEALER ONLY INTERESTED IN THE $$$$$$$
frontyboy
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:20 am
by Steve Jelf
...we note this particular Model T body has been installed on a 1920 Ford truck frame.
I wonder if those ancient Pneuflex tires would last five miles. 
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:26 am
by TXGOAT2
It's probably worth more as parts than as it sits, assuming the buggy parts have not been butchered, and assuming it runs reliabley. But it's worth what someone will pay. If it was mine, I'd consider removing the top assembly, adding late demountable wheels, balloon tires, and the right radiator shell, and enjoying it. It's a good start on a nice Johnny Cash Rustic Custom, or a Mr. Magoo car.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:35 am
by TXGOAT2
As far as the description, I've seen far worse. Buyer beware, and if you want a truly "original" antique car, especially a pre-1920 model, be sure you know exactly what the car you are looking for should consist of, and have some idea of current market prices, if such exist. A great many sellers of such cars don't know. Some do know, and would just as soon that you didn't. Beware!
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:03 pm
by Kaiser
Salad is what comes to my mind.

Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:12 pm
by Rich Eagle
The fact that there are many good photos of it is nice. It can plainly be seen what is there. Someone who has Model Ts and buggies could make good use of it. The entire body might be from one rig.
for me, the chance to see the old paint in preserved state and the colors in the aged top are justification to look at this offering several times.
Take your fun where you can.
Rich
P. S. The salad looks good too.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:10 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
The engine dates many of those parts to a 1923 manufactured on 9 June 1923.
Most of those parts are probably 1923.
The radiator, rear lights, and cowl lights are not even from Fords.
Re: 1909 T Touring
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:52 pm
by 5 WoodenWheels
Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:33 pm
The best part is the lengthy bloviation by a salesman who has looked up a few Model T facts and stirred them into his baloney pie.
It’s always a good day when I can see the word “bloviation” used.
After the long preamble, the writer could have simply said,
…as for this example, it’s a real wreck. Bring your cash offer.”