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MichaelC1972
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Identify and value

Post by MichaelC1972 » Sat May 27, 2023 11:05 am

I rescued this chassis from an old barn l am trying to id
It and place a value on it so l can sell it engine stamp
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Re: Identify and value

Post by John kuehn » Sat May 27, 2023 11:28 am

Is the engine number under the water hose connection on the side of the block? I’m thinking it’s located there. It looks like a 14 or older chassis.

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Re: Identify and value

Post by Humblej » Sat May 27, 2023 11:41 am

If the engine will turn over, $2000-2500.

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Re: Identify and value

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat May 27, 2023 11:51 am

I responded on your first discussion entry viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36728
Possible a "Chassis" model (no body) This is a picture of one that Craig Beek has in his museum.
The hood & firewall may help date it
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Re: Identify and value

Post by dobro1956 » Sat May 27, 2023 8:28 pm

Engine number you posted says Canadian 1916.


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Re: Identify and value

Post by Allan » Sat May 27, 2023 8:57 pm

1916 would fit, except for the headlight forks, hood and firewall. Perhaps it is 1914 is with later motor and different centre.
I have little idea of USA values.
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Re: Identify and value

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun May 28, 2023 4:37 am

It could have been almost anything? Now a later brass era with earlier firewall and hood, or an earlier (1914ish) now with a later engine. Or a bunch of loose parts put together to be whatever?
The rear end appears to be 1915 or later, and most likely as a 1916 would be the most correct. Another possibility could be as a commercial chassis, some did have earlier firewalls when they were new. Odd things were often done on delivery trucks.
Replicating a fairly correct 1915/'16 body is still not that difficult. Most body sheet metal was nearly identical through 1919 on the touring cars, and the runabouts even a couple years later. Many pieces and details are somewhat different, most of the details and pieces are still relatively easy to get and/or change.
The worst piece to get would likely be the 1915/'16 firewall/hood former. Those are getting tough to find.
When I was piecing together my 1915 runabout, I had no trouble finding most of the correct little pieces that it was missing. I keep seeing the 1915 style windshield brackets and hinges, and even the proper early sidelamps, as well as the correct door latches. Doing it and doing it right is still very possible!
A good brass era speedster, depot hack or delivery truck are also possibilities. And those options could probably be done more easily and for less cost. All are good options, and could become a fine antique automobile.

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