25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
CrandallJ
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:06 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Crandall
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 coupe
Location: King George, VA
MTFCA Number: 51648

25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by CrandallJ » Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:34 pm

3 of the 4 bolts protrude past the need of the nuts about an 1/8 of an inch. Is this ok or should they be flush?


speedytinc
Posts: 3839
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:24 pm
First Name: john
Last Name: karvaly
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 14/15 wide track roadster. 23 touring, 27 roadster pickup, 20ish rajo touring
Location: orange, ca
MTFCA Number: 14383
Board Member Since: 2020

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by speedytinc » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:18 pm

So 1 demountable bolt is shorter than the others.
Easy enough to measure to confirm.
As long as the nut is full, there is no strength issue.
Check the head side & insure the square shank is set in the square hole.


DHort
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI
MTFCA Number: 28762
MTFCI Number: 22402

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by DHort » Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:10 am

As long as they do not interfere with the brakes, you are fine. Just grind them down a touch, run thru a die, and peen them in place.

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3298
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '23 cutoff, '25 touring, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
MTFCA Number: 4838
MTFCI Number: 115
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by DanTreace » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:29 am

Demountable rim bolts may vary in length a tad.

But be sure the odd one is a correct bolt, two sides of that carriage head rim bolt are flat to prevent turning.


IMG_1474 (2).jpg

100_8218 (800x600).jpg
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford


Topic author
CrandallJ
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:06 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Crandall
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 coupe
Location: King George, VA
MTFCA Number: 51648

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by CrandallJ » Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:39 pm

Thanks. One other issue I have is key in the keyway is extremely loose. I’ve two new keys and same situation. Would Loctite Blue work in holding in place?


Scott_Conger
Posts: 6428
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 am
First Name: Scott
Last Name: Conger
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '13, '15, '19, '23
Location: Clark, WY
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:42 pm

....no....
Scott Conger

Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny

NH Full Flow Float Valves
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured

User avatar

Ed Fuller
Posts: 662
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:06 pm
First Name: Ed
Last Name: Fuller
Location: NJ
MTFCA Number: 29582
MTFCI Number: 22818
Board Member Since: 2012

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by Ed Fuller » Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:35 pm

If the key is a loose fit in the axle key way, the only way to fix it is to replace the axle shaft.


Jerry VanOoteghem
Posts: 2947
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:06 pm
First Name: Jerry
Last Name: Van
Location: S.E. Michigan
MTFCA Number: 24868

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:55 pm

A loose fitting key in an axle keyway is a sign of wear and possibly a dangerous situation. Post a photo of you axle and key please.


Norman Kling
Posts: 4068
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
First Name: Norman
Last Name: Kling
Location: Alpine California

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by Norman Kling » Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:55 pm

If the key is loose in the hub and in the axle, you need a wider key. However if tight in the hub but loose in the axle, your axle is worn. Often this happens if your wheel is not drawn down all the way, when installed. I use 100 ft lbs on the axle nuts. After you drive around a bit, check again to see if it is still tight and torque again.
The rim bolts should all be the same and fit into the slot in the rear before you tighten.
Norm


Scott_Conger
Posts: 6428
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 am
First Name: Scott
Last Name: Conger
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '13, '15, '19, '23
Location: Clark, WY
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: 25 Model T Rear wheel hub

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:06 pm

The rim bolts should all be the same and fit into the slot in the rear before you tighten.
Norman, you might want to clarify this lest something gets broken during assembly process
Scott Conger

Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny

NH Full Flow Float Valves
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic