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Scat was sold to Taglish back in December 2021.

Yes, Dan. It was Taglish that bought them. But now, as I said, all production is moving to China and only the most profitable lines will be produced. I did get this from a reliable source. They are selling the crankshaft production equipment in the US.

I have now learned from a "more" reliable source that the Model T, Model A, and V-8 production will be staying in the US but will be moving to a new facility. So NEVER MIND!!!

Good to hear that will leave more good useable cranks for those of us that failed to plan for inflation.
Craig.

I'd say no cause for concern, and thanks for the update. SCAT has been buying their un-machined cranks from China since the early 90's...Tom never tried to make that a secret.

SCAT actually one of the first to embrace the idea that China really could do it since no one in America had any further interest in that sort of thing...iron mongering 'was' by definition a dirty word. Over the years the process moved into partial machining and the way these things go it then evolves...a year or so of rough turn only to assure no near surface blowholes before forwarding, then each step in the machining process moved from Tom's shop to China over time one at a time...ultimately Tom shop doing but the final machining in his shops for his rapidly moving product and performing full inspection, while at the same time sitting on un-machined cranks in CA that could be final machined into a host of different final configurations. Makes sense that Made in China complete to USA standards for the flagship products follows on all but the low volume stuff.

Since they are the only game in town...we be nice to them, yes? There ARE now Chinese manufacturers who can blow the socks off of anything global, all CNC/AI, they just don't sell to the likes of Wal-mart. I think Tom chose one of the ones at the top of the pile.

There is less financial loss to China stopping the low volume Scat cranks.
Its another matter to ask Xi to stop exporting fentanyl, thats where the big money is.

Called Langs to order $4k worth of parts - No new Crankshaft, no new 280 cam, no new distributor. Who's got them in stock TODAY? Customers car (see my 25 touring thread for the videos of it). This was supposed to be a two week turnover, I don't have room to store it here while I wait for parts to be made in china...

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:52 pm

Called Langs to order $4k worth of parts - No new Crankshaft, no new 280 cam, no new distributor. Who's got them in stock TODAY? Customers car (see my 25 touring thread for the videos of it). This was supposed to be a two week turnover, I don't have room to store it here while I wait for parts to be made in china...

Sounds like before turning in a quote for work, one might check price & availability in advance.

Tim Foye & also Jerry ,
Regarding your post needing a SCAT Model T crankshaft, now . I just got off the phone to SCAT , they have crankshaft blanks on hand but will not be machining them until after the first of the year, hopefully in January 2024 , when they get the new shop set up here in USA. They didn’t say how many Model T & A blanks they had on hand but they currently have 47 blanks pre-sold and they suggest that to get a order in now, either with a supplier of your choice or with SCAT directly, so that you can get one of the currently on hand crankshaft blanks machined in January, when the new shop is up and running. The good news is that as far as the Model T & A cranks go they will still be available.
kmatt2

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:14 pm

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:52 pm

Called Langs to order $4k worth of parts - No new Crankshaft, no new 280 cam, no new distributor. Who's got them in stock TODAY? Customers car (see my 25 touring thread for the videos of it). This was supposed to be a two week turnover, I don't have room to store it here while I wait for parts to be made in china...

Sounds like before turning in a quote for work, one might check price & availability in advance.

if it's in the catalog or shown on the net,and not marked as out of stock,we as customers figure it is ready for purchase.

tdump wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:31 pm

if it's in the catalog or shown on the net,and not marked as out of stock,we as customers figure it is ready for purchase.

This is one issue I also have. In this day and age any online system should have that co.'s inventory cross referenced. Due to my work schedule I am not avaiable to the phone during the day to check inventory and cancel an expedited shipping option, so I prefer to enter my orders on line slelect the shipping I need and know then and there that I am getting the main item I need to enjoy my T over the weekend and not just the sundry items I ordered.

Equate it to ordering an ice cream sunday and every this is there except the ice cream.

Things have radically changed regarding parts availability. I/you/we will have to adapt.
You know the suppliers short comings. Work them accordingly.
Your on line suppliers inventory cant be trusted. YOU will have to call & confirm stock.
Yes it sucks, but it is the current reality.

John is sooo correct. It's the way of the world now. We must adapt to the new reality.

I ordered a SCAT from Langs back in June..... I talked to Langs a couple of weeks ago and they said that SCAT had only recently delivered cranks ordered in April-May. I suspect mine is one of those to that will show up in January or so..... My take on all this? It's great that we can get such a high quality replacement crankshafts...end of story

$2250 plus tax and shipping. The joke is on us unfortunately.

I'm glad that I ordered one from Chaffin's back in the summer. I was told Fall delivery and they were correct. At the time they shipped mine, they had received 5, and they were all pre-sold.

Chaffins have reground camshafts - 270

When you finally get your crank, do stick it on v blocks and check the straightness with a dial indicator. I had a 4 thou bend so 2 thou off straight. I managed to straighten mine. Now when did it get bent? I am guessing during the very last part of the manufacturing process. The journals and everything are fine and good. But you really don’t want to just shove it in bent and flog the centre journal. If you are unwilling to straighten it (I used a pipe bender and got to better than half thou), do bear in mind that the warranty runs from when you ordered, so it will most likely be out of warranty when you get it and Scat are unresponsive to any claims. Langs were brilliant on the other hand.

Having said all the above, it is a very nice looking crank and once I sorted mine it went easy. Don’t forget to modify the sump pan bracket at the rear as the counterbalance hits it. I ground mine down a bit, countersunk it and welded in a countersink bolt, with the nut on the outside.

So I am happy (partly as I had no other option), but they really need to fix quality control and when they mess up, talk to customers.

BobUkPipedream wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:07 am

Chaffins have reground camshafts - 270

do bear in mind that the warranty runs from when you ordered, so it will most likely be out of warranty when you get it and Scat are unresponsive to any claims. Langs were brilliant on the other hand.

That is a weird warranty application, which starts at order before you receive the crank?

Yep, it’s here:

https://www.scatcrankshafts.com/terms-a ... 20purchase.

I received mine about two months before the warranty ran out. I then realised it was bent about a month before and when I emailed them I got one holding reply, then they did not answer any more emails.

It is what it is with no other options, but complacency often leads to ruin and that would be a big shame. So I hope they get their act together quickly.

ThreePedalTapDancer wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:08 pm

$2250 plus tax and shipping. The joke is on us unfortunately.

$1595.00

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sca-7t4000/make/ford

Is that the standard Scat crankshaft at Summit?

Bob McDaniel wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:17 pm

Is that the standard Scat crankshaft at Summit?

Yes, it is.

But none in stock

Kerry wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:51 pm

But none in stock

They're no different than anyone else there. I do believe it's the best price I've seen however.