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The discussion "Originality" viewtopic.php?f=2&t=40727 had some questioning about 1925 fenders. So I started to see what I could find (see below). In doing so I found little information on fender differences and the need for pictures was most critical to understand what those differences looked like. So I thought it would be a good idea if we could narrow down differences to the part numbers for FRONT FENDERS ONLY here can create a discussion for rear fenders if needed

Part # Factory # Description
4800C 7976B R/F
4800D 40108 R/F
4801C 7977B L/F
4801D 40109 L/F

DIBN'T THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL FENDER ALSO ?

sheppfour wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:39 pm

DIBN'T THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL FENDER ALSO ?

That is a MYTH… See the listing for “1925” above. The front fenders with the bead going under the apron were considered “commercial fenders” by some people and vendors at a point in time before there was a great deal of good research and factual information available to the a average hobbyist. We now know those style front fenders were used on all cars & trucks in very late 1924 and all of 1925. The same fenders were then also used on all TT’s from that point thru the end of production.

Adam wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:18 am

sheppfour wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:39 pm

DIBN'T THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL FENDER ALSO ?

That is a MYTH… See the listing for “1925” above. The front fenders with the bead going under the apron were considered “commercial fenders” by some people and vendors at a point in time before there was a great deal of good research and factual information available to the a average hobbyist. We now know those style front fenders were used on all cars & trucks in very late 1924 and all of 1925. The same fenders were then also used on all TT’s from that point thru the end of production.

Just to add a bit more ‘late front fender’ info, recall reading in The Henry Ford, transcripts of Remembrances, of one of the Ford employees mentioning a change around late 20’s in tooling to the front fenders to improve strength, as the old tooling was worn so new stamping dies were made. That implied to me the change to the wide reinforcement bead, so front fenders were changed at that period of 1924. Thereafter all factory fenders were wide bead and used for cars and trucks.

Interesting to is I have seen many of those later fenders WITHOUT the front edge bent down to mate with high radiator aprons. Obviously these improved strength front fender were made also for replacement dealer trade for low radiator cars or trucks without that radiator apron.


Here is one of those, no lip for radiator apron, but all features of wide bead fender including the reinforcement washer bead for running board bolts.

Just to stir the pot, the factory describes the fenders as left and right. There is then no confusion like there is when using driver and passenger side as a descriptor.

Allan from down under.

Somewhere in my email account i have a email from Bruce Mccally, "spelling" that got right to the point of 'splainin' there is no commercial fender! Sadly I went thru all my old emails and apparently it got lost.

To add to earlier post, here is the fender info in 1924, by E.H. Walter’s, in his Rememberences.

The stamping operations being transferred to the giant River Rouge plant, new dies were made to improve the late ‘24 front fenders. Interesting is the mfg. quantity, that fenders were made in larger numbers than production needs, to supply for field repairs.