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Tom in the 5th picture, is that a small dog tied up by the bottom suitcase?

For being such a "boring everyday car" at the time, people sure took a lot of pictures of them! Another great set!

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Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:54 pm

Tom in the 5th picture, is that a small dog tied up by the bottom suitcase?

Doubt if its a tied up small (tiny) dog (dead). Likely some of the fabric protecting the luggage bunched up around the rope

Photo nine appears to be a right hand drive Touring amongst Australian eucalyptus (gum) trees.

It is just that Brendan. A Ford factory bodied car is unusual in Australia, as complete cars were hit with tariffs to encourage the building of the bodies locally.

Allan from down under.

Thirteen! Is there a T in that picture? Can't focus on anything but what is in front center!
Norm

Allan & Brendan,

I think the number 9 photo is an Australian bodied Model T Ford using the Canadian (same as USA and UK) offset hinge windshield frame used on the later 1917 to 1922 Fords. But notice they had to add a spacer between the body and the windshield frame because the body is curved there. The US, CA & UK factory bodies (made by outside suppliers) are flat across the body where the windshield attaches for the 1915-1922 style bodies (as well as others). Zooming in and looking at the cowl it is similar to the USA/Canadian/UK cowls 1917-1923 but the shape is a little different and I do NOT see the characteristic bead that divides the top of the cowl and the bottom of the cowl.
Compare to a photo of our 1918 taken in 1950 USA bodied T for the different shape and the bead between the top and bottom part of the cowl.
Of course I have old eyes...and sometimes I see what I want to see rather than what is really there. But I think this is another case of "none of us are as smart as all of us together."

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I think the 6th photo down (also reposted above) appears to be a Canadian production Touring. Note the hinged left side front door (although Ford of England also had that with a dummy door on the right front and then later both front doors opened).
Note the lower part of the slant windshield is hinged to pivot out like the 1920-1925 Canadian open cars. US and English cars did not have that feature if I recall correctly (please chime in if I have that wrong or you know that is correct). The car has the door protectors the Canadian open cars 1920-25 had. It appears to have the horn button on top of the steering wheel. You can see the rear top window is rounded and NOT straight as a rectangular window would be. It also had the loose lug wheels (some USA cars also had the Kelsey loose lug demountable rims and two other styles of loose lug wheels depending on the manufacturer).

All of those could be 1920 to 1925 (Canada introduced the slant windshield in 1920). But you can also see in the photo that the metal dash has a bracket for the steering column. Ford USA introduced those with the 1924 model year high cowl open cars. I do NOT know when Ford of Canada did that. The couple of photos of the 1920 low cowl Canadian Cars I have show they did not have that bracket. And the few photos that I have of the high cowl open Canadian cars show they do have that steering column bracket. But I don’t know when Ford of Canada went to the high cowl cars or when they added the steering column bracket on the dash (same metal part that has the switch and amp meter).
If anyone else has some better dates on when Ford of Canada went to the high cowl and when they added the steering column bracket, please let us know. My 1925ish Canadian Price List of Parts is packed in a box at the moment. I look on “The Gunny’s excellent” website at http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/default.htm but I didn’t find any 1924 or 1925 Canadian Pricelist of Parts. There was an Australian Price List of Parts – but it did not contain pictures and mostly was just part numbers and other numbers.

The 7th photo has the Canadian style Oval rear top windows.
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Tom,

Thank you so much for taking the time to post so many wonderful photos! I wish I had more time to view them and enjoy them. They provide a great window into the past.

Respectfully submitted,

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Photo #11: Beautiful car, shiny and new. Don't we wish our cars looked like that.

Well spotted Hap. Now you have me focused, I wonder if we are not looking at a stack of hood bows that makes a one man top too.

Allan from down under.

Allan,

I think it is a two-man style top. Maybe not exactly like the ones Ford USA or Canada used but at least similar. Notice what appears to be the top iron under the driver's right hand. Also note that the bow stack is very similar to the one on our 1918. Sorry -- my T books are in a brown box among many other brown boxes so that is the best photo I can easily access.
Below a photo of our 1918 two-man top bows stacked: From memory, not as good as it once was, I believe the book "The History of Ford in Australia" or similar title, had Deluxe bodied Fords that did have the one man tops. But I think there may have been some mid teens that also had a lower price model that may have had the two man top.

Again, fascinating photos.

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