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tools

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:06 pm
by Carl R
Is there a book on model t and model a tools or where they can be found

Re: tools

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:17 pm
by Steve Jelf
Model A? I don't know much about those modern cars. Model T? I don't know of one single book about just the tools, but there are several sources that provide a lot of information. A good place to start is Bruce McCalley's Model T Encyclopedia, which is a must-have. Info on it is here: https://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html
Here's another place to start: https://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/default.htm

Where they can be found? Swap meets, eBay (if you know what you're looking for), classified ads (same), Prices can range from $1 to amounts that make your head swim. With a little study you can learn which ones were produced in the millions and should be cheap ($2 - $5).

Re: tools

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:52 am
by DanTreace
Like Steve replied, really no source in one place as so many tools made by Ford for service dealers, factory used special tools and the most common tools, those that came in each car’s tool rolls or bags.

For the supplied car tools, Parts and Price list booklets for Model T picture those tools and most have the factory number embossed on the tool to to identify, generally if the tool is marked ‘Ford USA’ that is a Model A tool. Model A Club nat’l has nice guideline listing the car tools for the Model A.

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Re: tools

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:31 am
by John kuehn
Where can Model T tools be found?
Go to flea markets, boxes of old parts and tools at 2nd hand stores, farm clearance auctions, old car swap meets , goodwill stores and pawn shops. Pawn shops usually have a section of miscellaneous tools which can also be a source. Garage sales are a source too. And it’s no surprise they went in a box of junk at a scrap yard.

They can still be found but maybe perhaps not as often as it used to be but they are still out there. Probably the most common is a Model T spark plug wrench. Lots of old Ford tools wound up on farms where they were used for most everything on the farm.
Good luck! And of course Ebay.

Re: tools

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:21 pm
by Pep C Strebeck
Carl R wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:06 pm
Is there a book on model t and model a tools or where they can be found
What type of tools? Are you asking about the tools for the "tool kit" that were supplied at the time of purchase or Dealer service tools (3-Z and 5-Z) or are we wading into the deeper waters of the Aftermarket (KRW, Stevens, Hinckley Myers, Truth, etc.)?

Re: tools

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:28 pm
by Carl R
Not the shop tools but just the tools that came with a car or truck

Re: tools

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:57 pm
by Steve Jelf
...just the tools that came with a car or truck

They're listed on pages 41 & 42 in the 8-5-28 parts book we all have. They're the tools without a Z in their numbers. There were some changes over the years, but that shows the ones that were current in 26-27.

Re: tools

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:05 pm
by John kuehn
Steve’s post about the T parts books is right. They are the closest thing at the present that are source books for Model T tool identification.
And as Pep S. says the aftermarket tools are a whole different story. Probably the most valuable and useful T specialty tools were made by Stevens. Other brands of hand tools made the wrench for crankshaft/ transmission connection bolts. That’s a good tool to have these days by the way. Montgomery Ward and Western Auto parts catalogs also may have Model T tools in them. Model T’s were very popular and LOTS of aftermarket parts and tools were made for them! Good luck.

Re: tools

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:39 pm
by George Mills
There was a Model T tool only website a long time ago. I imagine the 'webmaster' may have somewhere along the line passed and then the site went 'poof'. May want to try web archive tools to see if it still may be seen.

John Regan started to be more definitive with a series he originally had on his Funprojects business website, research articles he had researched and wrote as he was progressing through his Stynoski 'winner' (Other club best most accurate restoration of the year)...now the site also went 'poof'. Ditto a web archive attempt might help. Like one was the stamped hubcap wrench, he walked through the entire evolution from start to finish to the finest detail based on drawings and change cards at the Benson Ford archives.

Tony Cimorelli also had a library of parts books on his site and as Steve points out, the books were updated sometimes several times a year and contain the tool list in just about every one.

Good luck.

Re: tools

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:17 pm
by Karl Von Neumann
If you looking for tools I have a bunch altho I sold a bunch of the more odd ball stuff at the little hershey show few weeks back