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What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:52 pm
by Steve Jelf
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I noticed this broken right rear spring clamp on my 1923 touring and set about trying to replace it. Most of these clamps have a little tooth punched in them which fits into a hole in the top spring leaf. I don't recall seeing one like this, but maybe somebody else has dealt with this type and can shed some light. I've tried driving a big screwdriver under it with a BFH, but so far it hasn't budged.

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The left one has just a round hole, and it appears something round is broken off in the hole. Is that a rivet with the head broken off, or what? If I know what I'm dealing with here, maybe that will suggest how to remove it.

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:05 pm
by Ruxstel24
Sure looks like a rivet to me, Steve.
I deal with them on modern ball joints by using a HD air hammer (not HF or Crapsman) and a sharp chisel bit. Just pop the head off sideways and punch the rest out. Without a good air hammer, you can grind the head off.
Looks like you may have to separate those springs to get the rest out. :(

When I lifted my car by the frame, some separation occurred, may be enough...

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:11 pm
by mike zahorik
My spring clamps have the tab that fits into a small hole on the spring leaf. If you pop what looks like a rivet out, will there be a hole to use the new type of spring clamp? Mike
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Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:57 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
While most T springs used loose clamps, many with some sort of dimple to hold it in place, I have had a few with the clamps riveted onto that leaf. I have always been curious whether that was a "year" thing? Or maybe a supplier difference?
You should be able to grind or chisel the piece off, could corner weld a piece to replace what is missing, or simply drive and enjoy until you decide to rebuild the whole rear end.

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:44 pm
by Allan
I like Wayne's corner weld a replacement piece. You can always replace that whenever the rear spring is removed for whatever reason.
Simple, easy, satisfactory.

Allan from down under.

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:56 pm
by Les Schubert
If it was mine, I wouldn’t bother at this time as the other side is obviously securely clamped and it fits closely in the cross member. Arc welding against a leaf spring is just looking for a future crack in it as tempered spring steel is NOT meant to be welded to!!

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:11 pm
by D Stroud
Les, I don't think Wayne meant welding to the spring. That clamp can be repaired very easily in place by welding another piece to it with a corner weld as Wayne said. The spring wouldn't be affected at all. That's what I would do in a heartbeat. Dave

Re: What's holding this spring clamp?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:30 pm
by AndreFordT
Here is a front spring with the same construction.
I rebuild the front axle and as the spring was solid I just installed the leaf as it was.

Andre
Belgium