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A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:50 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
Would anyone have one of these anvils or know the history behind why this one was made with Ford 1920 on it in raised text?
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Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:24 pm
by TRDxB2
J1MGOLDEN wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:50 pm
Would anyone have one of these anvils or know the history behind why this one was made with Ford 1920 on it in raised text?

1920 Ford Anvil.jpg
From the internet
This beautifully cast iron anvil really captures the blue collar spirit of America's industrious past which helped shape our present. This miniature iron Ford anvil has the classic Ford script and date of 1920 cast in it which commemorates the year Henry Ford bought out all minority stockholders for sole ownership.

Overall: 2-1/2" tall, 4-1/2" long, 1-3/4" thick at the base
Weight: 1-1/2 pounds

There is one on eBay for $35 https://www.ebay.com/itm/355884080347

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:53 pm
by John kuehn
So were they sold at dealerships for promotion purposes, aftermarket product?

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:20 pm
by DanTreace
These are new, were not made in the days of the T

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Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:36 pm
by Erik Johnson
It's a fantasy piece.

You can buy the same anvil that says "Indian 1901," "Chevrolet 1913," "John Deere 1937," "Oliver 1929," etc.

I have a legitimate, nickel-plated anvil paper weight in my collection of stuff. It's smaller and very high quality compared the fantasy pieces. Don't remember if there is any advertising references on it.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:28 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
Evidently, they were made recently, but trying to get the copywrite Ford name on any product is not an easy thing to do!

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:51 pm
by John kuehn
Thanks Dan for the update. Good to know. Well I guess you could call it an aftermarket product. Sort of! If that was an actual T era promotional piece it would be worth much more than $35.00.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:08 pm
by RVA23T
J1MGOLDEN wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:28 pm
Evidently, they were made recently, but trying to get the copyright Ford name on any product is not an easy thing to do!
And I would be willing to bet they didn't worry about a copyright!

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:18 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
I would be willing to bet they would not get a copywrite for a few items.

One Ebay seller said he had sold about 19 out of 100.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:46 pm
by Allan
Getting permission to use any company logo is obtaining the rights to copy it. It is called copyright. Isn't our language a bit of a dill at times. It makes perfect sense for obtaining copywrite for something that is written.

Allan from down under.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:11 pm
by John kuehn
I think the seller thinks it’s of no consequence to get a copyright. Maybe he thinks since it doesn’t have the copyright symbol next to the Ford script it’s not important. Lots of big names have the small circle with the c in the middle. I don’t know if it has to. Maybe or maybe not. Maybe if he was making a run of a million but just a few Ford wouldn’t worry about.
JC Whitney sold lots of T hubcaps with the Ford script logo but did they get a copyright for them or did the maker? Probably never know for sure

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:14 pm
by RVA23T
Allan wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:46 pm
Getting permission to use any company logo is obtaining the rights to copy it. It is called copyright. Isn't our language a bit of a dill at times. It makes perfect sense for obtaining copywrite for something that is written.

Allan from down under.
Sometimes I think German is much easier, it's "rules" make more sense (or is it cents) to me.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:51 am
by J1MGOLDEN
Years ago, I found a book my cousin wrote and it had the C in a circle on the cover.

He had been dead for many years, so living near Washington, DC it was only a short trip over to the library of congress that keeps records of all the copywrites and patents to contact the current owner for permission to publish the small book.

I found the cousin had never paid the $29 fee for the copywrite.

So, I commented that it must be OK to print then.

I was told, even if no copywrite was purchased, a person can still gain the protection the copywrite would have provided, if the issue is brought to court and the other party can prove the material was stolen from him or them.

Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:16 am
by Jerry VanOoteghem
What's a copyright???

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Re: A 1920 Ford Anvil

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:04 pm
by ModelT46
It is not a copywtrite. the Ford scripht is a registered trademark. Any one else using the Ford trade mark without permission is in vialation of the registration.