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Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by BRENT in 10-uh-C » Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:28 pm

Does anyone have the correct Paint Code or Formula for the Midnight Blue? Some may reference it as Midnite Blue. Since we are a PPG shop, if you have a PPG formula, that would work for us also.

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by DanTreace » Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:47 pm

Dark Blue paint for 1911-1912
Midnight Blue for PPG Concept Paint Code 17876.
DMC934 Violet 643.50
DMC924 Blue 348.00
DMC936 Green 60.70
DMC902 Black 14.20
DMC900 STR White 14.20
That is a quart formula.
Before you apply this color spray a coat of Black
Epoxy Primer.
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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by Jones in Aiken SC » Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:15 pm

Brent,
I don't know if this helps but here is the label for my Midnight Blue as I used on my 1912 Roadster. It's got OEM codes, but no formula and it was done in OMNI single stage. Picture of my roadster although you can't tell much due to the lighting. But it is a dark blue. The fluorescent lighting makes it look "bluer." I asked several "experts" and did a lot of research, and pretty much all said to use the DB904. I know some go even darker or lighter but the "old guys" advised me to use the DB904. Is it absolutely correct? Sure......
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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by KWTownsend » Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:41 pm

The DB904 if a very pretty blue, but my choice is a little darker DB332:

Diamont Uno 4635 A Mercedes DB 332 (ca. 1963-1967)

Use PPG Non-Sanding Epoxy Primer DP90LF as an undercoat

Pint: am’t (g) acc color tint
SC01 44.8 44.8 Base
SC10 70.8 115.6 Clear
SC46 41.8 157.4 Green shade Phthalo blue
SC25 87.0 244.4 Carbon black
SC54 226.1 470.5 Blue shade Phthalo green
SC99 7.2 477.7 low strength white.

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by Jones in Aiken SC » Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:45 pm

Some fascinating discussion on "Midnight Blue."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29256&p=226125&hili ... ue#p226125

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:12 pm

Whenever this subject comes up I point out that names are not a dependable reference. One company's Kelly green may be another company's Envy green. Specific formulas are better. With modern technology a paint company can also match the original color scanned from an original body part with a spectrometer. This page from McCalley's encyclopedia lists specific formulas.

Body Colors 09-14.png

The part about green and blue being almost black is apparently unknown to many owners and restorers.

I've read that some 1914 cars have been found with blue on them.
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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by KWTownsend » Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:40 pm

Steve,

The color that Bruce has cited is IMHO far too light of a color.
The fender is this photo is Dupont 81501A.
The hood sections are Diamont Uno 4635A (BD 332)
color w flash.jpg
Even without the flash, the Dupont color is far too light.
colors w-o flash.jpg
YMMV

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by Jones in Aiken SC » Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:55 am

While on the subject of "Midnight Blue," does anyone have a MODERN paint code for the correct French Gray used in pinstriping. Preferably PPG but will accept all input.

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by KWTownsend » Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:11 pm

My pinstriper used this as a base, then tinted by eye.
One Shot Meduim Grey 195-L.jpg
It actually would be pretty good straight out of the can.
It is better to be a little darker color and a little thinner stripe so it doesn't look like the circus is in town.

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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by Jones in Aiken SC » Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:31 pm

I agree go with a very thin pinstripe. I have a couple original pieces that have the pinstriping on them, and it is quite thin.

I don't think I will stripe the wheels, as I don't like the look. It can always be added by the next owner.


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Re: Midnight Blue (-or Midnite Blue) Paint Code or Formula needed;

Post by hull 433 » Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:28 pm

I'll second the thin pinstripe.

Everything I've seen supports blue fenders and splash guard up to 1912, black afterwards. There is a chance the running board itself was black on the earlier cars, based on color illustrations in the Ford Times. Haven't checked an original condition car for that detail though.

Generally speaking, it's wiser to go with a darker shade of blue than lighter, because if you get it wrong with a lighter shade it's absolute hell, not so much the case with a darker shade.

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