MTFCA Forum

Does anyone have the correct Paint Code or Formula for the Midnight Blue? Some may reference it as Midnite Blue. Since we are a PPG shop, if you have a PPG formula, that would work for us also.

Thanks!!

Dark Blue paint for 1911-1912
Midnight Blue for PPG Concept Paint Code 17876.
DMC934 Violet 643.50
DMC924 Blue 348.00
DMC936 Green 60.70
DMC902 Black 14.20
DMC900 STR White 14.20
That is a quart formula.
Before you apply this color spray a coat of Black
Epoxy Primer.

Brent,
I don't know if this helps but here is the label for my Midnight Blue as I used on my 1912 Roadster. It's got OEM codes, but no formula and it was done in OMNI single stage. Picture of my roadster although you can't tell much due to the lighting. But it is a dark blue. The fluorescent lighting makes it look "bluer." I asked several "experts" and did a lot of research, and pretty much all said to use the DB904. I know some go even darker or lighter but the "old guys" advised me to use the DB904. Is it absolutely correct? Sure......

The DB904 if a very pretty blue, but my choice is a little darker DB332:

Diamont Uno 4635 A Mercedes DB 332 (ca. 1963-1967)

Use PPG Non-Sanding Epoxy Primer DP90LF as an undercoat

Pint: am’t (g) acc color tint
SC01 44.8 44.8 Base
SC10 70.8 115.6 Clear
SC46 41.8 157.4 Green shade Phthalo blue
SC25 87.0 244.4 Carbon black
SC54 226.1 470.5 Blue shade Phthalo green
SC99 7.2 477.7 low strength white.

: ^ )

Keith

Some fascinating discussion on "Midnight Blue."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29256&p=226125&hili ... ue#p226125

Whenever this subject comes up I point out that names are not a dependable reference. One company's Kelly green may be another company's Envy green. Specific formulas are better. With modern technology a paint company can also match the original color scanned from an original body part with a spectrometer. This page from McCalley's encyclopedia lists specific formulas.


The part about green and blue being almost black is apparently unknown to many owners and restorers.

I've read that some 1914 cars have been found with blue on them.

Steve,

The color that Bruce has cited is IMHO far too light of a color.
The fender is this photo is Dupont 81501A.
The hood sections are Diamont Uno 4635A (BD 332)
Even without the flash, the Dupont color is far too light.
YMMV

: ^ )

Keith

While on the subject of "Midnight Blue," does anyone have a MODERN paint code for the correct French Gray used in pinstriping. Preferably PPG but will accept all input.

My pinstriper used this as a base, then tinted by eye.
It actually would be pretty good straight out of the can.
It is better to be a little darker color and a little thinner stripe so it doesn't look like the circus is in town.

: ^ )

Keith

I agree go with a very thin pinstripe. I have a couple original pieces that have the pinstriping on them, and it is quite thin.

I don't think I will stripe the wheels, as I don't like the look. It can always be added by the next owner.

I'll second the thin pinstripe.

Everything I've seen supports blue fenders and splash guard up to 1912, black afterwards. There is a chance the running board itself was black on the earlier cars, based on color illustrations in the Ford Times. Haven't checked an original condition car for that detail though.

Generally speaking, it's wiser to go with a darker shade of blue than lighter, because if you get it wrong with a lighter shade it's absolute hell, not so much the case with a darker shade.