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1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Gary_in_MN » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:40 am

The BMC book lists the factory price at $ 950.00 with 298 produced.
The factory price for 1910 was $ 1100.00 only 2 produced.
That should be enough to start a discussion. Gary
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Kerry » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:23 am

Price seems right for both years but the Encyclopaedia lists 377 built for 1910 and 236 for 09

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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by varmint » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:31 am

It's so obvious but at the same time not. No rear view mirror, nor sides.
In some ways it reminds me of a center door.
Someone else can comment on the two levers.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Gary_in_MN » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:59 am

Kerry wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:23 am
Price seems right for both years but the Encyclopaedia lists 377 built for 1910 and 236 for 09
I found my numbers on page 13 of the BMC book. Gary


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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Kerry » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:18 am

Numbers seem to be all over the place but even working with Calander of fiscal years, the only mention of 2 being built was in the 1908 Calander year, although Nov and Dec figures seem to be missing.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by George House » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:33 am

Production figures figures for landaulet are very interesting. Thank you for posting Kerry. Can one conclude this model’s design wasn’t suitable for inclement weather so discontinued in favor of the town car ?

Has any landaulets even survived ??
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Drkbp » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:23 am

Another Landaulet from the New York Show in December 1908.
A two lever shown with headlamps.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:09 pm

Given the low production numbers for 1909, I find it odd that the Landaulet body would have comprised such a high percentage. I hope someone can point is to an actual survivor!

Re/ the landaulet in the auto show photo, it’s not impossible that became a “car that never was”. It was fairly usual for auto makers to present something stunning for the show, and then pull the chassis for a definite sale with a less expensive or more practical body.

Weather ? :lol: Directly in line from a horse drawn world, no one concerned themselves whether the coachman was exposed to the weather. For the prestigious “csrriage trade”, the “to hell with the chauffeur” body styles persisted up to WW II !
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:24 pm

Up for sale. -Craig Beek's
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by nigel_hugo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:48 pm

The picture of this car shows it is in Munich , Germany.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by pete eastwood » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:54 pm

very early 2 pedal 2 lever car
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Kerry » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:24 pm

I did find the missing months, figures compiled by Bruce McCalley back in 2007, Calander years, In 1908, 27, 1909, 532 and in 1910, 8.


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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Luxford » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:33 pm

I am surpried no one has mentioned that the early Landaulet and Town Cars were being sold by Ford (USA & Canada) also as "taximeters".
Ford realised these bodies were ideal for the Taxi trade. They also had a pre Model T verson in 1907 which was sold in England to Hansom Cab drivers who found them far better than the horse drawn cabs (as they eliminated the horse costs, Feeding and looking after) The Hansom Cab owners were an easy customer as they had to have done the special test to gain the "knowledge" to obtain the licence in London.
The Model T being so easy to drive made it easy for them to master the Model T to drive. Hundreds of Town Car, Landaulet, and Taximeters were in place in the 1908-1912 period all over the world. The Taximeter varied slightly from the Landaulet.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:19 pm

The Café Terminus was a popular cafe in the late 19th century near the Gare Saint-Lazare, located in Paris, France.
The lettering on the window "Restaurant A-- CARIE ET A PRIX Eim-" translated from French to English "Map and prices xxx" map could be menu

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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by JTT3 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:20 am

The drivers space sure makes a TT CAB LOOK ROOMY. I suppose after a long day of driving the operator’s back was hurting.

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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Kaiser » Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:40 pm

The "Terminus" is translated literaly as 'End of the line', you could find them all over Europe, it was good business as people had to wait for connection to the next part of their trip by cab, bus, train or otherwise.
The restaurant window says 'a la carte' and something about 'a la prix something' , a la carte means that they have a menu to chose from, and at a reasonable price, most restaurants those days had a fixed menu, so you ate what they served, 'a la carte' is quite fancy for the day.
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by George House » Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:02 pm

That’s interesting Leo. Today after church I drove my ‘14 T runabout to a place called Karma Kafe. They don’t have menus at all. You get what you deserve…. :roll:
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Re: 1909 " T" Landaulet

Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:12 pm

That bone at the Cafe could conceivably be the chassis that was sold recently and is being restored. It was found in Europe.

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