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Old Photos - Looking for ID's

Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:10 pm

Good old John found some more family photos to identify. Sorry that only one is Model T era. He promised me some more on glass negatives that sound interesting. Before I burn the midnight oil, do any of these look familiar?
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1. The exposed runningboard brackets and bail door handle might be clues.
JM8_1.jpg
2. What's that grill to?
JM8_2.jpg
3. I know we have some 38? to 42? experts out there.
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:20 pm

Quick guesses.
Mitchell.
Oakland.
Willy's.
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Mitchell is a bit of a guess, however, the similarity to Buick of 1911 to '13 is striking, and I have known several owners of Mitchell automobiles (for some silly reason years ago, the Bay Area Horseless Carriage Club had a bunch of them! I think I went on a tour one time with three Mitchell cars on it!).

Oakland and Pontiac used the center-split radiator shell for a couple years. It could be a Pontiac, but I think the name badge may be the Oakland. If so, it would be near the end of the line for that marque. I would guess it to be a 1931, could be a '30.

I don't know Willys very well after about 1930. Not sure about it.
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Re: Old Photos - Looking for ID's

Post by Ruxstel24 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:30 pm

I'm thinking the last one is a Mercury, 38-39 ?
Could be a Ford... :?:

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:35 pm

Those are better guesses that I have had but I don't see matches so far.
We are taking off for Yellowstone in a bit but I will do some more looking when I get back.
Thanks Wayne.
Have fun with these in the mean time.
Rich
P.S. Dave, that was my first thought too but I don't see a match there either.
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:36 pm

My two "edits" were to correct typos. Not changing my guesses, yet.


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Post by Derek Kiefer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:52 pm

The 10-spoke front wheels on the first picture make me think Cadillac


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Re: Old Photos - Looking for ID's

Post by JBS » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:55 pm

THAT LAST CAR IS A 1939 DESOTA


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Post by Burger in Spokane » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:30 am

1915 Cadillac
1930 Oakland
1939 DeSoto
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:49 pm

Thanks guys. I'll pass the information to John.
Yellowstone was great but not as much fun as in a T.
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:06 pm

The first car probably is a Cadillac, although I have not yet found an exact model match. The year would be closer to 1911 however.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:17 pm

My first impression on seeing the third car was how much it resembles our old Plymouth, so De Soto seemed a reasonable guess. After looking at online photos I'd say it looks more like a 1940 De Soto than 1939. BUT I see enough difference in details to suspect we may be barking up a totally wrong tree. After checking photos of 1939 and 1940 Chrysler, De Soto, Plymouth, Hudson, Studebaker, Nash, and Graham cars I didn't find anything that's a complete match. I even checked Ford, Mercury, and the GM cars. I didn't find anything with that chrome trim that starts in the center and runs back along the bottom of the hood.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:32 pm

After some looking, I think a 1939 Dodge is the best match for car 3.
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Post by ChrisB » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:45 pm

How about this 1939 Dodge ?? Looks like a dead match to me.
I take that back. There are a couple extra grill openings on this one.
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How about this with the painted openings? Maybe you can't see them on the old pic?
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Post by thom » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:22 pm

Don't be confused by the headlight bezels on the orange, street-rodded car in ChrisB's first pic. Those are aftermarket bezels commonly used back in the day, still seen regularly on late 30s and early 40s cars and at swapmeets. I've had a few sets over the years, but can't remember who the manufacturer was, probably more than one, with slight differences.
I think the grille openings are there on the car in the old pic, they just don't have stainless trim or the light is not right in the pic to show them.
A friend of mine had a car like that a few years ago and although I never told him so, I wondered why he was willing to invest money and time in what I thought was an unattractive car. I think he eventually thought so too, as he sold it pretty quickly.


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Re: Old Photos - Looking for ID's

Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:10 pm

I embarrassed myself saying that was a DeSoto. I should know better, but this is a little
early for my deeper knowledge. Ask me about 55-61 DeSotos, and I can tell you all about
them.

Anyway, yes, Dodge has what looks like an "arrow" swept over the nose for trim, like the
car in question.

A 1939 DeSoto looks like this:

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:11 pm

I had no clues. I appreciate all the ideas.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:25 pm

Another senior moment. I looked at Chrysler, De Soto, and Plymouth, but never thought of Dodge. Yes, I think that's it. It has not only the trim running back along the bottom of the hood, but also the dip in the front bumper
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Post by Ruxstel24 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:30 pm

Dodge has the ribs on the bottom of the front fenders also.

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