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SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:51 pm
by Professor Fate
what's the consensus on spark plug gap and the
Pros and cons of small gap to big gap? I've been
seeing .024 to .035 discussed./size]

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:01 pm
by speedytinc
24mm is almost an inch.
I wouldnt recommend either for a plug gap.

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:04 pm
by Professor Fate
Sorry. .024 to .035

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:27 pm
by John kuehn
I split the difference. .030. The spark plug gap is about like setting the carb 1 1/4 turn and the going from there to get the setting for each particular car. That being said all T’s aren’t exactly alike.
Didn’t Henry say to set the gap with a thin dime?

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:29 pm
by Scott_Conger
Champion says ".025"

Based on period literature and technical papers, FORD, Holley, Stromberg, Zenith, and Rayfield say ".031"

Champion wants to be sure their plug will fire in every car under all conditions from new to totally worn out.
FORD, Holley, Stromberg, Zenith, Rayfield want your car to run its best. They were not stupid people.

So long as the car is running a stock FORD head, I have found FORD, Holley, Stromberg, Zenith and Rayfield have it pretty much nailed. High compression heads may require experimentation down toward the lower end.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:26 pm
by big2bird
I would use .025" with timer/ coils.

With a distributor I would use .035".

With a magneto, I would start at .035", and see if it works well, If .030" is required, your mag is lame.

I don't see what carbs have to do with ignition.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:45 pm
by Scott_Conger
One of many sources to support my statement above - in this case .035", "or a trifle less than the thickness of a new dime"
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Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:58 pm
by DanTreace
Have success with my ‘27 running Champion 25, gapped a tad over .025”, with Prus head and the unstoppable I-Timer on magneto. ;)

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:44 pm
by TXGOAT2
The condition of the plugs can be a factor. Worn plugs may perform better with a narrower gap. Starting with a weak magneto may be easier with a narrower gap. If you have a modern ignition system with a modern coil, you can go to .035 to .042.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:59 pm
by TXGOAT2
.028 to .032 should get good results, depending on how worn your dime is and how accurate your dimeometer is. Specification may need adjustment for Canadian coinage.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 10:42 pm
by Professor Fate
I was told that big gap puts a strain on coils if
run on 6v battery power, and it's an alternating current vs. direct current
thing. Whats the science behind this?

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:41 am
by TXGOAT2
Coil secondary voltage, or firing voltage, will tend to be higher with a bigger gap. This will not damage a good coil, within reason. The gap is one of a substantial number of factors that affect maximum coil secondary voltage. It's best to use plugs that are in good condition without excessive electrode erosion and follow Ford's recommendation.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:44 am
by John kuehn
The Ford service manual on page 237 paragraph 1002 says to set the spark plug gap APPROXIMATELY 1/32”.
1/32” is .03125 which is ABOUT the thickness of a thin dime.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:16 am
by TXGOAT2
.028 to .032 will give good results in general service if your stock system is in good condition and good adjustment. The gap will tend to increase as miles accumulate. I'd be inclined to adjust a new set of plugs to .030, and a set of used plugs that have been filed likewise. It's best to measure gap on used plugs with a wire gauge rather than a flat one. It's likely that the gap changes as the plug comes up to operating temperature, since the ground electrode and the center electrode both run hotter than the shell, and the running temperature of these parts will change under different operating conditions. A great many variables affect the performance of the ignition system and the behavior of the plug at differing engine speeds and loads, and these conditions can change very rapidly. At high elevations, a somewhat wider gap may give better results. At sea level, a slightly narrower gap might do better.

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:45 pm
by Professor Fate
I ran my new rebuilt engine in my
'26 at .032 gap for a short while. I am at 150
to 200 ft above sea level. I thought the car ran
better at that gap than .024

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:13 pm
by TXGOAT2
Ford thought so too, but what did they know?

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:58 pm
by John kuehn
Pretty much a thin dimes worth.

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:24 pm
by JohnH
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I followed the instructions that came with my repro Champion X's. Considering how smooth it runs, and how fast it drives on the freeway, I'd say they got it right. They've been in the car well over 10 years now, and haven't had to do anything to them.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:37 pm
by ModelTWoods
Would the recommended gap, be the same for original 1" PT plugs, as for newer long reach 14 MM plugs used in today's high compression heads?

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:08 am
by Moxie26
My opinion is that an increased spark plug gap cause a negative effect on ignition coil condition. A basic spark plug gap of 0.025 inches will fire accurately with a well-adjusted ignition coil. .... Increased spark plug gap puts a strain on the coil and the delays firing time because more energy is needed to fire that that plug with the increased gap. People often wonder why the bottom of their coils are discolored and black, the realization that coil working temperature increases with lost time to fire the wide gapped plugs, let alone increased working temp effect on the potting tar. .... Observation found in a firewall mounted coil box, not the later engine mounted coil box. Original coil supply potting tar with engine mounted boxes used the same formula as the Ford tractor coils with a higher melt temperature.. but today's rebuilt coils I doubt make that same distinction for use.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:14 am
by TXGOAT2
A Model T is not hyper-sensitive to spark plug gap settings if the ignition system is in good order and good adjustment and if the spark plugs are reasonably clean and not excessively worn. If the ignition system has issues, the condition and adjustment of the spark plugs can be more critical. For best results under all ordinary conditions, the entire ignition system needs to be in good condition and good adjustment, and the engine needs to be in good overall condition and the operator needs to know how to use the engine controls to the best advantage.

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:22 am
by TXGOAT2
A well-used Model T with no starter and a weak magneto could be expected to start more easily with a new set of Champion plugs set at .025 to .028 rather than old, worn plugs set at .031. But a dirty, worn set of plugs, once cleaned and filed properly, would get the same result.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:23 pm
by Moxie26
.....and the little old Ford rambled right along. ! ..... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwqJ8Dut ... wAo7VqN5tD

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:30 pm
by Moxie26
Question... Why can't the engine run better with a larger spark plug gap?

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 2:21 pm
by TXGOAT2
A gap that is too wide may cause mis-fire at higher engine loading. It can also make starting on magneto more difficult. The engine runs on fuel combustion/expansion, not spark energy. Worn or dirty plugs will mis-fire more easily with a wider gap. There's nothing to gain with an excessively wide gap.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 2:31 pm
by TXGOAT2
There used to be a wide variety of "trick" spark plugs. Very few offered much, if any advantage over the factory equipment. Ford recommended none of them, and discouraged their use. Some plugs, like the Liberty Spitfire, functioned something like a combustion pre-chamber, and they'd actually spit fire out of the area around the electrode. They could offer advantages in a big bore, low speed, low compression engine with a large combustion chamber. But they never became widely used on automotive engines, perhaps because the shrouded electrode did not work well in high speed engines, and because conventional plugs like the Champion X did a fine job at less expense. Multi-electrode plugs will typically fire only one electrode. They can be useful in large stationary engines that run all the time, since when the primary electrode begins to erode, the next closest one will begin to fire, thus avoiding a need to shut the engine and equipment down to adjust the spark plug.

Re: SPARK PLUG GAP PROS AND CONS?

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:23 pm
by A Whiteman
I get good results from 'thumb nail' thickness. Works well especially when you are away from the workshop.....