This is the fan hub on our 1909 Roadster.
Is that center section soldered in there?
Need ideas for repair please.
Thanks
Chris
1909 Fan hub repair
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Re: 1909 Fan hub repair
Chris
it IS soldered in...
another thing...I've found that the machining was quick and dirty on the brass hub fans, and seems to have been done AFTER the rear bushing was soldered in. I always matchmark the hub and the bushing so that it goes in EXACTLY the way it came out. Sometimes they are darn off-center when assembled and then machined to perfect concentricity. You frequently find rough brass casting that is barely cleaned up due to core shift, inside the hub, or not cleaned up at all in one spot on the receiving cavity where the rear bushing was installed.
Now, I am not describing factory methods and won't attempt to defend the above. It is simply what I have found and have never been sorry that I took the time to match-mark the parts prior to disassembly.
Steel-hub fans are a different story. They seem happy to just have concentric bushings repaired/replaced and pressed right back in. No muss no fuss...
it IS soldered in...
another thing...I've found that the machining was quick and dirty on the brass hub fans, and seems to have been done AFTER the rear bushing was soldered in. I always matchmark the hub and the bushing so that it goes in EXACTLY the way it came out. Sometimes they are darn off-center when assembled and then machined to perfect concentricity. You frequently find rough brass casting that is barely cleaned up due to core shift, inside the hub, or not cleaned up at all in one spot on the receiving cavity where the rear bushing was installed.
Now, I am not describing factory methods and won't attempt to defend the above. It is simply what I have found and have never been sorry that I took the time to match-mark the parts prior to disassembly.
Steel-hub fans are a different story. They seem happy to just have concentric bushings repaired/replaced and pressed right back in. No muss no fuss...
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Re: 1909 Fan hub repair
So I presume you can just take a propane torch, heat it up, and it will pop out? Or will we have to pry it out?
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Re: 1909 Fan hub repair
Hi Chris, It appears to have been soldered in. Originally was a press fit. Heat it up,ment the solder and it will probably fall out I am sick of brass hub fans wearing out so are currently fitting a sealed bearing kit in the hub to replace the bush. It came with my car and was supplied from Texas T parts. The other option is to buy the hub already converted and rivet the blades to it.