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-7 this morning. Been - all week long. Too cold to really feel like working on T stuff. I hope it gets better.

Must be Globull warming!

The Polar Bears are sweating!

There's weather, and then there's climate. Don't overidentify- you only embarrass yourself.

Here in Wyoming, it is 60F, and I am watering my spruce trees due to no snow

Just read where a youngster found a fossilized soft-shell turtle carapace here in Wyoming. The Scientist quoted for the article say it was from an era where Wyoming's climate was Tropical. Other scientists say our winter this year is the warmest on record...

Which scientist should I believe?

They cannot both be right.

My scientific explanation for warm winter here along with no snow is due to the fact that this past summer, I just bought a new Kubota tractor with a huge snow blower attachment. Even though it remains parked, it has done wonders in keeping me from being snowed in. Prove me wrong

Now, if I was really worried about this stuff, I could contact COTAP (Carbon Offsets To Alleviate Poverty). They will gladly accept my donation of my frequent flyer miles (so that THEY can fly for free rather than me), or accept my Capital Gains money (so that THEY can spend it rather than me).

And for those donations, I am magically absolved from my excessive living and they offset my CO2 emissions...now THAT's SOME SCIENCE!!!

I haven't had the ambition to work on T projects either. We have a foot of snow on the ground and the big doors on my pole barn are going to have to be dug out if it doesn't melt soon. My understanding is the warming arctic adds energy to the polar vortex, pushing it farther south,which has caused our southern neighbors no end of grief. I suspect we'll see more cold streaks in the winters that follow. We're pretty well prepared here in Michigan but the south is going to have to make some adjustments. Being a pilot and sailor, I've paid pretty close attention to the weather for the past half-century and to quote Bob Dylan, "The times they are a changing..."

Cool areas with tropical fossils were not necessarily so when in their present location. The continents have moved, merged, pulled-apart, sunk, risen, you name it. Some of the highest mountains in the world have fossils of extinct marine organisms.

The North American continent has moved generally Westward in the past 48 million years and very slightly south. The bottom line is that the earth was a very very warm place at one time, including the arctic, which was covered in lush, subtropical to temperate forests and swamps.

I, too, agree that things are changing. In my lifetime, I've witnessed .00000000139583 % of the change that's occurred over 48 million years, but from my perspective it seems like a lot. In fact, in my lifetime, I've been told to worry that the earth was going to be frozen over by 2000, and then that warming was going to shrink the poles. One out of two extremes isn't bad, I suppose. The cooling theory would starve 1/2 the population and the warming theory feeds the world in abundance. I'll take that version of global disaster any day.

I'll go with the fact that the earth has never been and never will be a static rock.

Global Warming has struck with a vengeance! Night before last, it was around 18F. A couple of hours ago, the temperature exploded to 68F!! I got my T out and drove for 43 miles, T shirt & jeans. Horrors!

A warm, moist, carbon-rich biosphere is a populous and diverse one. The most sterile natural place on earth is a desert in Antarctica. It is NOT HOT, and not likely to be, unless the Antarctic continent moves away from the polar region and toward the equator. We are carboniferous creatures.

Extremes have a way of working against themselves. There is no "cold", only more or less heat.